Comments on: Female Arab Bloggers http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/ A Jordanian Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:20:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Oula Farawati http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9922 Oula Farawati Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:46:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9922 though it must have become an established science.. u know, trying to see who is better in what, men or women... I believe it is wrong to think of gender as determining a skill... i believe in the theory of seven intelligences! everyone is born with all human skills, some are stronger than others.. on another hand, men are more on the blogsphere simply because they have more time.. women have full time jobs at work and at home.. guys just have so much free time! though it must have become an established science.. u know, trying to see who is better in what, men or women… I believe it is wrong to think of gender as determining a skill… i believe in the theory of seven intelligences! everyone is born with all human skills, some are stronger than others..
on another hand, men are more on the blogsphere simply because they have more time.. women have full time jobs at work and at home.. guys just have so much free time!

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9912 Nas Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:01:40 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9912 <b>mala2e6,</b> i never said JP was representitive of the whole Jordanian blogosphere in the same way toot is not representitive of the entire arab blogosphere, they are both selective. but they do represent a good general sampling of what's offered "out there". as for politics, feel free to add your voice to <a href="http://www.black-iris.com/2006/05/25/women-and-exclusive-politics/" rel="nofollow">this discussion</a> mala2e6, i never said JP was representitive of the whole Jordanian blogosphere in the same way toot is not representitive of the entire arab blogosphere, they are both selective. but they do represent a good general sampling of what’s offered “out there”.

as for politics, feel free to add your voice to this discussion

]]> By: rebecca http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9905 rebecca Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:29:25 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9905 I would also be interested in knowing figures from a network like Jeeran. One thing that might explain the lopsided figures in JP is "privacy". Women might not be as eager as men to have their blogs widely distributed. (Though the figures from Toot might shoot down that theory.) I would also be interested in knowing figures from a network like Jeeran. One thing that might explain the lopsided figures in JP is “privacy”. Women might not be as eager as men to have their blogs widely distributed. (Though the figures from Toot might shoot down that theory.)

]]> By: mala2e6 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9893 mala2e6 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:44:01 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9893 nas your calculations are not accurate coz u only counted female bloggers on JP and you know that there are lots more out there.I for example w a3otho billa min kilmet I,am not added YET,maslan ya3ni. now what Qweider said is what goes into my mind right now.women are well known for their good ability to organize things and i am not talking beds and living rooms here,they take their work seriously,now a month ago we read an announcemnt by JP that there will be some changes but nothing happened. as for politics,I have an explanation for women not willing to be involved there but i don't think you'll like my explanation so I'll keep it to myself ;) nas
your calculations are not accurate coz u only counted female bloggers on JP and you know that there are lots more out there.I for example w a3otho billa min kilmet I,am not added YET,maslan ya3ni.

now what Qweider said is what goes into my mind right now.women are well known for their good ability to organize things and i am not talking beds and living rooms here,they take their work seriously,now a month ago we read an announcemnt by JP that there will be some changes but nothing happened.

as for politics,I have an explanation for women not willing to be involved there but i don’t think you’ll like my explanation so I’ll keep it to myself ;)

]]> By: Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9890 Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:46:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9890 With Nas's permission, I would like to respond to lksfadljk No, I am not suggesting that they would actually "dumb" it down. But rather make it more accessible, usable and hospitable to the masses. I think you took the reverse of what I'm advocating which is taking a fresh look and perspective on everything we grew to accept as normal. And taking into account the needs of the rest of society not the bunch of geeks designing things right now because they are clueless when it comes to the needs of others. With Nas’s permission, I would like to respond to lksfadljk
No, I am not suggesting that they would actually “dumb” it down. But rather make it more accessible, usable and hospitable to the masses.

I think you took the reverse of what I’m advocating which is taking a fresh look and perspective on everything we grew to accept as normal. And taking into account the needs of the rest of society not the bunch of geeks designing things right now because they are clueless when it comes to the needs of others.

]]> By: Ray http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9888 Ray Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:54:52 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9888 More power to ya, as I like to say. More power to ya, as I like to say.

]]> By: lksfadljk http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9887 lksfadljk Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:44:47 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9887 "If women had a bigger role in defining the way things work (on the Internet) things would have been made much simpler and in an encouraging way to other women." Things would have been made much simpler to other women? Could you elaborate? Because to me it sounds like you just said "If it was upto them, women would dumb things (the Internet) down" Actually usability is becoming an increasingly bigger issue in CS or Computer Engineering. THis is not because of women, but because most of the population don't have a degree in CS nor the desire to spend anything more than a few minutes to learn something new, and of course, the many accidents and mistakes that could result from poor usability engineering. “If women had a bigger role in defining the way things work (on the Internet) things would have been made much simpler and in an encouraging way to other women.”

Things would have been made much simpler to other women? Could you elaborate? Because to me it sounds like you just said “If it was upto them, women would dumb things (the Internet) down”

Actually usability is becoming an increasingly bigger issue in CS or Computer Engineering. THis is not because of women, but because most of the population don’t have a degree in CS nor the desire to spend anything more than a few minutes to learn something new, and of course, the many accidents and mistakes that could result from poor usability engineering.

]]> By: Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9885 Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:32:06 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9885 Actually, my point was the following: If women had a bigger role in defining the way things work (on the Internet) things would have been made much simpler and in an encouraging way to other women. (Take Flickr as an example, one of the reasons why it's so popular is that women vision has been incorporated in it) Anyway, yes it doesn't require a CS degree, and it shouldn't :) Actually, my point was the following:

If women had a bigger role in defining the way things work (on the Internet) things would have been made much simpler and in an encouraging way to other women. (Take Flickr as an example, one of the reasons why it’s so popular is that women vision has been incorporated in it)

Anyway, yes it doesn’t require a CS degree, and it shouldn’t :)

]]> By: Lubna http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9882 Lubna Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:57:01 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9882 I always thought and stil think that females are more into reading, writing and expressing themselves more than males. I still don't know why there are more male bloggers than female ones. It doesn't make sense to me. I do believe that by the writing style, someone can figure the gender of the writer. Isn't that how Charles Dickens discovered that George Eliot is a female writer afterall:) Nice discussion topic Naseem I always thought and stil think that females are more into reading, writing and expressing themselves more than males. I still don’t know why there are more male bloggers than female ones. It doesn’t make sense to me.

I do believe that by the writing style, someone can figure the gender of the writer. Isn’t that how Charles Dickens discovered that George Eliot is a female writer afterall:)

Nice discussion topic Naseem

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9879 Nas Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:25:43 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9879 Roba, ah i see, yes that is probably true but it wouldn't really describe their low numbers. this reminds me of the question of why there are less women in politics. Roba, ah i see, yes that is probably true but it wouldn’t really describe their low numbers. this reminds me of the question of why there are less women in politics.

]]> By: Roba http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9874 Roba Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:20:41 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9874 No, actually, I mean active in blogging. The female bloggers blog more, they write better (for the most part at least), cover more diverse topics, and generally interact more with the community. Q, lol, you think? I don't think it has anything to do with CS either. Of course, it does require rudimentary knowledge of CS, but it's really easy to learn. I didn't know ANYTHING when I started blogging, I remember it took me ages to figure out how to insert an image (those days the only way you could do that was with html tags). I learned as I went along. It's easy and doesn't need anything. It's even easier today than it was a couple of years ago, with sites such as Flickr, YouTube, Blogger, etc. giving people a run for their money without any money. No, actually, I mean active in blogging. The female bloggers blog more, they write better (for the most part at least), cover more diverse topics, and generally interact more with the community.

Q, lol, you think? I don’t think it has anything to do with CS either. Of course, it does require rudimentary knowledge of CS, but it’s really easy to learn. I didn’t know ANYTHING when I started blogging, I remember it took me ages to figure out how to insert an image (those days the only way you could do that was with html tags). I learned as I went along. It’s easy and doesn’t need anything.
It’s even easier today than it was a couple of years ago, with sites such as Flickr, YouTube, Blogger, etc. giving people a run for their money without any money.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9873 Nas Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:36:31 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9873 <strong>roba,</strong> but wouldn't being more active mean more females? or did you mean males? <strong>Q</strong>, i think most bloggers, male or female, dont have a degree in CS. and toot isnt really a blogosphere, it's selective blogs and there's no way the females are double. that's about 80 of the 122 blogs, no? roba, but wouldn’t being more active mean more females? or did you mean males?

Q, i think most bloggers, male or female, dont have a degree in CS. and toot isnt really a blogosphere, it’s selective blogs and there’s no way the females are double. that’s about 80 of the 122 blogs, no?

]]> By: Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9872 Qwaider Ù?Ù?Ù?در Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:07:52 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9872 IF you want to easily even the odds, check iToot, where the number of female bloggers is twice as much as male ... I guess Jordan bloggosphere is male dominated while iToot (which has more diverse Arabic Blogs) has different odds Jeeran might have good statistics on the matter. They apparently have a big number of subscribers and I think the question of Gender pops up during registration On a similar notte, less and less women are getting in the Computer Science field, maybe they'er smarter. Although blogging might not really need a CS degree, it does appear to be a challange for some, <a href="http://blog.sweetestmemories.com/default.asp?Display=141" rel="nofollow">Why more women need to study Computer Science</a> IF you want to easily even the odds, check iToot, where the number of female bloggers is twice as much as male …
I guess Jordan bloggosphere is male dominated while iToot (which has more diverse Arabic Blogs) has different odds

Jeeran might have good statistics on the matter. They apparently have a big number of subscribers and I think the question of Gender pops up during registration
On a similar notte, less and less women are getting in the Computer Science field, maybe they’er smarter. Although blogging might not really need a CS degree, it does appear to be a challange for some, Why more women need to study Computer Science

]]> By: Roba http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9871 Roba Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:48:18 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2006/10/01/female-arab-bloggers/#comment-9871 Cool topic. I always knew that the females are a lot less than the males, but I didn't realize the ratio was as low as 28 to (100-28). I think it has to do with the fact that the females are more active in blogging... Cool topic. I always knew that the females are a lot less than the males, but I didn’t realize the ratio was as low as 28 to (100-28). I think it has to do with the fact that the females are more active in blogging…

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