Comments on: Help Save The Dibbin Forest! http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/ A Jordanian Blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Saving Dibbin » Mental Mayhem http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-146354 Saving Dibbin » Mental Mayhem Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:38:53 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-146354 [...] Jordanian blogosphere is reacting to the call. Batir, Naseem and Hala have already given the issue exposure on their sites. For those who care, please sign the [...] [...] Jordanian blogosphere is reacting to the call. Batir, Naseem and Hala have already given the issue exposure on their sites. For those who care, please sign the [...]

]]> By: Falco http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-142350 Falco Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:59:46 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-142350 Hope this all went good I have so many wonderfull memories to Dibbin. But I think Jordan is on a good way to protect the environment, with people like you all! Hope this all went good I have so many wonderfull memories to Dibbin. But I think Jordan is on a good way to protect the environment, with people like you all!

]]> By: Issa http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43562 Issa Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:23:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43562 Thanks Nas for adding me in the list :) Thanks Nas for adding me in the list :)

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » The Jordanian Blogosphere: February Clippings http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43373 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » The Jordanian Blogosphere: February Clippings Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:05:12 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43373 [...] The Jordanian blogosphere is abuzz with two controversies this month. The first revolves around the proposal to build a tourist complex near the Dibbin Forest that will result in the cutting down of many trees. While a small online campaign has started up in recent days, other bloggers see the issue in a completely different light. [...] [...] The Jordanian blogosphere is abuzz with two controversies this month. The first revolves around the proposal to build a tourist complex near the Dibbin Forest that will result in the cutting down of many trees. While a small online campaign has started up in recent days, other bloggers see the issue in a completely different light. [...]

]]> By: nimra http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43021 nimra Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:42:59 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43021 What I do not understand is.. with thousands of miles of empty desert, they put their eye on the one most fertile area in Jordan!!! They did that to Abdoun, a greatly fertile land ready for farming, turned it into a swamp of villas that don't even claim beautiful gardens! One generation ago, every household, no matter how poor claimed a grape vine, olive tree or at worst, some herbs planted near their door. Is money blinding us all from interacting with nature, which in turn is feeding us & giving us life? Please everybody, look after our beautiful Jordan! What I do not understand is.. with thousands of miles of empty desert, they put their eye on the one most fertile area in Jordan!!! They did that to Abdoun, a greatly fertile land ready for farming, turned it into a swamp of villas that don’t even claim beautiful gardens!
One generation ago, every household, no matter how poor claimed a grape vine, olive tree or at worst, some herbs planted near their door. Is money blinding us all from interacting with nature, which in turn is feeding us & giving us life?
Please everybody, look after our beautiful Jordan!

]]> By: Hala http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43007 Hala Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:28:48 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-43007 I am definitely in, and I love the button. Thanks for spreading the word :) I am definitely in, and I love the button. Thanks for spreading the word :)

]]> By: n@simjo ©: Save Debbin from "COOL" People! http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-42865 n@simjo ©: Save Debbin from "COOL" People! Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:51:23 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-42865 [...] Since approximately e v e r y b o d y promoted for signing their names on a website to save debbin. So ... how many of those really do know details about whats happening there!I'm afraid to say none!Being a resident of Jerash for the past 17 years... I can tell you more detail:The project was proposed and planned since over 3 years now.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know how much local public and authorities in jerash area have been fighting to get some investor to ACT for such a project.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders have ever been to debbin more than 24 aggregated hours during the past 10 years. Or even 15 years!I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know how much debbin did loose during the past 15 years because of being an un-protected forest were public mess out during the summer. And do not know that every summer 4-6 fires are set-up in the area burning out 10s of pine trees.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that 10s of trees in the area are chop down every year illegally since 10s of years so that some of them would have wood coal and fireplace burning woods in their villas!I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that since a few years back even poor local people chop down trees in order to get their children some warmness during the freezing winters of the area because of the massive rate of unemployment and poverty in the area.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that over 75% of the youth in the area and villages around debbin suffer unemployment. And the only job they do around the year is harvest their olive trees in the autumn.The Project was to be started before more than a year ago. And the RSCN and Government stopped it until it got in with Jordan Dubai capital to an agreement about how things should go environmentallyThe Project is an eco-tourism project, eco-tourism is available only in lebanon as far as arab countries are concerned. Does anyone around here knows what eco-tourism is!The Building of the project will not be built in the forest! But in an empty area beside it.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know the number of trees that will be chop down in this project, nor the number of trees that will be planted.The Buildings area will be planted.The forest area will be totally protected.The trees chop down will be in few numbers, and will be chop down to open roads to the project.The number of newly planted trees in the project will be 10X the number of trees chop down in opening the roads.The land of the project will remain property of the government! It will only be rented.100s of locals will be working in the project directly.1000s of locals will be working in the project in-directly.If you dont want the project, be sure that residents of Burma, Khshebe, Majdal, Kette, Remon, Sakib, Na7le, Al-Jazzaze, Gaza Camp, 3lemoon .. and the entire Jerash Area WANT IT!So ... Save Deebin by not signing!Labels: cool, debbin, from, people, reasons, save [...] [...] Since approximately e v e r y b o d y promoted for signing their names on a website to save debbin. So … how many of those really do know details about whats happening there!I’m afraid to say none!Being a resident of Jerash for the past 17 years… I can tell you more detail:The project was proposed and planned since over 3 years now.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know how much local public and authorities in jerash area have been fighting to get some investor to ACT for such a project.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders have ever been to debbin more than 24 aggregated hours during the past 10 years. Or even 15 years!I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know how much debbin did loose during the past 15 years because of being an un-protected forest were public mess out during the summer. And do not know that every summer 4-6 fires are set-up in the area burning out 10s of pine trees.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that 10s of trees in the area are chop down every year illegally since 10s of years so that some of them would have wood coal and fireplace burning woods in their villas!I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that since a few years back even poor local people chop down trees in order to get their children some warmness during the freezing winters of the area because of the massive rate of unemployment and poverty in the area.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know that over 75% of the youth in the area and villages around debbin suffer unemployment. And the only job they do around the year is harvest their olive trees in the autumn.The Project was to be started before more than a year ago. And the RSCN and Government stopped it until it got in with Jordan Dubai capital to an agreement about how things should go environmentallyThe Project is an eco-tourism project, eco-tourism is available only in lebanon as far as arab countries are concerned. Does anyone around here knows what eco-tourism is!The Building of the project will not be built in the forest! But in an empty area beside it.I can guarantee that None of those who signed, promoted to sign, or the FOE members or founders know the number of trees that will be chop down in this project, nor the number of trees that will be planted.The Buildings area will be planted.The forest area will be totally protected.The trees chop down will be in few numbers, and will be chop down to open roads to the project.The number of newly planted trees in the project will be 10X the number of trees chop down in opening the roads.The land of the project will remain property of the government! It will only be rented.100s of locals will be working in the project directly.1000s of locals will be working in the project in-directly.If you dont want the project, be sure that residents of Burma, Khshebe, Majdal, Kette, Remon, Sakib, Na7le, Al-Jazzaze, Gaza Camp, 3lemoon .. and the entire Jerash Area WANT IT!So … Save Deebin by not signing!Labels: cool, debbin, from, people, reasons, save [...]

]]> By: UmmZaid http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41657 UmmZaid Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:33:27 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41657 Jordan needs her trees! We can have economic development without doing any more damage to the environment. This country can't afford to lose a single tree. Subhan'Allah. I will be telling my friends about this when we go to Dibeen this week, insha'Allah. Jordan needs her trees! We can have economic development without doing any more damage to the environment. This country can’t afford to lose a single tree. Subhan’Allah. I will be telling my friends about this when we go to Dibeen this week, insha’Allah.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41362 Nas Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:15:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41362 Hal: thanks for hopping on the bandwagon. Nell: thanks for stopping by with your words of encouragement. Moey: we're on our way to forming an enviornmentalist gang. Hal: thanks for hopping on the bandwagon.

Nell: thanks for stopping by with your words of encouragement.

Moey: we’re on our way to forming an enviornmentalist gang.

]]> By: Moey http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41355 Moey Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:35:16 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41355 consider me in consider me in

]]> By: Nell http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41337 Nell Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:27:26 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41337 I am not only appalled by having such rare trees cut, I am sick at the stomach to see these people run after money at the expense of trees, archaeological sites, our history, the future of our children. Please everybody, speak out, time is precious! It takes seconds to destroy what has taken centuries to build. A rich oasis (a gift!)in the middle of a great expanse of merciless desert is worth the effort! I am not only appalled by having such rare trees cut, I am sick at the stomach to see these people run after money at the expense of trees, archaeological sites, our history, the future of our children. Please everybody, speak out, time is precious! It takes seconds to destroy what has taken centuries to build. A rich oasis (a gift!)in the middle of a great expanse of merciless desert is worth the effort!

]]> By: Hal http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41269 Hal Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:34:25 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41269 Thank you for this. I've signed, and now will blog! I like the button! Thank you for this. I’ve signed, and now will blog! I like the button!

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41220 Nas Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:00:12 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41220 nasim: "because the buildings will be held outside the forest as far as i know!" according to all sources the project will be taking up a large portion of the forest itself. "7-9 villiges in the area have their young residents useless and unemployed â?¦ doing absolutely nothing! and this is the 2nd generation passing by in this situation." first, i dont know if these hotels will employ them in the first place. second, if they do, it would make very little difference if this project was set up away from the forest in terms of employing the local residents. "the situation of over 10 forests suffering in the area,,,, not only debbin." this argument doesn't make sense to me nasim. are you suggesting that since other forests in the area are suffering that therefore nothing should be done about debbin? nasim: “because the buildings will be held outside the forest as far as i know!”

according to all sources the project will be taking up a large portion of the forest itself.

“7-9 villiges in the area have their young residents useless and unemployed â?¦ doing absolutely nothing! and this is the 2nd generation passing by in this situation.”

first, i dont know if these hotels will employ them in the first place. second, if they do, it would make very little difference if this project was set up away from the forest in terms of employing the local residents.

“the situation of over 10 forests suffering in the area,,,, not only debbin.”

this argument doesn’t make sense to me nasim. are you suggesting that since other forests in the area are suffering that therefore nothing should be done about debbin?

]]> By: nasimjo http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41219 nasimjo Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:53:50 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41219 i dought about the number of 100s of trees! because the buildings will be held outside the forest as far as i know! its just that the area around the place is in a very miserable situation.... 7-9 villiges in the area have their young residents useless and unemployed ... doing absolutely nothing! and this is the 2nd generation passing by in this situation. So i also have my reasons ... for a person knowing what's happening there for over 17 years .. i personally know the situation, as well as the situation of over 10 forests suffering in the area,,,, not only debbin. i dought about the number of 100s of trees!
because the buildings will be held outside the forest as far as i know! its just that the area around the place is in a very miserable situation…. 7-9 villiges in the area have their young residents useless and unemployed … doing absolutely nothing! and this is the 2nd generation passing by in this situation.
So i also have my reasons … for a person knowing what’s happening there for over 17 years .. i personally know the situation, as well as the situation of over 10 forests suffering in the area,,,, not only debbin.

]]> By: Goodie Girl http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41179 Goodie Girl Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:08:03 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41179 Hi Nas, What a great subject to blog about. I had no idea that the Dibbin Forest was in such a state. Okay, I didn't even know about Dibbin forest until now. Thanks for sharing and nice Dibbin Button. :) GG Hi Nas,

What a great subject to blog about. I had no idea that the Dibbin Forest was in such a state. Okay, I didn’t even know about Dibbin forest until now. Thanks for sharing and nice Dibbin Button. :)

GG

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41127 Nas Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:59:18 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41127 Issa, most definitely. thanks! Sillybahrainigirl, thanks and thanks for stopping by too! Issa, most definitely. thanks!

Sillybahrainigirl, thanks and thanks for stopping by too!

]]> By: sillybahrainigirl http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41119 sillybahrainigirl Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:01:50 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41119 Power to you. Great cause! Power to you. Great cause!

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Jordan: Support Dibbin Forest http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41118 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Jordan: Support Dibbin Forest Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:00:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41118 [...] Jordanian blogger The Black Iris is spearheading a campaign to protect a forest from destruction. Click here to support the drive. Amira Al Hussaini [...] [...] Jordanian blogger The Black Iris is spearheading a campaign to protect a forest from destruction. Click here to support the drive. Amira Al Hussaini [...]

]]> By: Issa http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41109 Issa Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:36:51 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41109 I've signed the petition, I hope others will do the same, and it's even better if other bloggers publish more posts on the 'Dibbin tragedy' by talking on both project byproducts and what local community says, I'm a Jerash resident and we are the first to demand the stop of this stupid project, really, it's senseless to cut down 200 centenary trees (as minimum) to build four hotels and 160 chalets... I’ve signed the petition, I hope others will do the same, and it’s even better if other bloggers publish more posts on the ‘Dibbin tragedy’ by talking on both project byproducts and what local community says, I’m a Jerash resident and we are the first to demand the stop of this stupid project, really, it’s senseless to cut down 200 centenary trees (as minimum) to build four hotels and 160 chalets…

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41069 Nas Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:41:52 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41069 nasim, inta 7or man...but the project will gobble up a few hundred trees from the forest. preserving it as it is right now is the first priority. and moreover, having that many hotels, construction sites and complexes in that area will only worsen the situation. as for promises to move the trees thats what they said with madaba they burnt them all nasim, inta 7or man…but the project will gobble up a few hundred trees from the forest. preserving it as it is right now is the first priority. and moreover, having that many hotels, construction sites and complexes in that area will only worsen the situation.

as for promises to move the trees

thats what they said with madaba

they burnt them all

]]> By: nasimjo http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41067 nasimjo Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:37:04 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41067 But from what i know about the project (being an ex-resident of jerash area... well, not that ex- i just moved from jerash after 17 years of living there).. is that it wont result in uprooting any trees! that is, since the buildings will be built in an empty land near the forest. and the forest area included in the project will be reserved in a much better manner than now! if you go nowadays to debbin, u'll find that the situation is miserable, and every summer 4-5 fires are set in the area because of the lack of preservation.. also, the RSCT made a deal with Jordan Dubai capital that every uprooted tree in the roads to be built to the project will be moved to the area were buildings are being built in the empty area, plus another 9 new fresh trees. personally, im not signing it! But from what i know about the project (being an ex-resident of jerash area… well, not that ex- i just moved from jerash after 17 years of living there).. is that it wont result in uprooting any trees!

that is, since the buildings will be built in an empty land near the forest. and the forest area included in the project will be reserved in a much better manner than now!

if you go nowadays to debbin, u’ll find that the situation is miserable, and every summer 4-5 fires are set in the area because of the lack of preservation..

also, the RSCT made a deal with Jordan Dubai capital that every uprooted tree in the roads to be built to the project will be moved to the area were buildings are being built in the empty area, plus another 9 new fresh trees.

personally, im not signing it!

]]> By: amjad mahfouz http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41066 amjad mahfouz Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:36:14 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/02/14/help-save-the-dibbin-forest/#comment-41066 Count me in man, I say yes for a greener Jordan. Count me in man, I say yes for a greener Jordan.

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