Comments on: Stupidity In The Name Of Islam http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/ A Jordanian Blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45706 Nas Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:32:12 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45706 alia, i admit that sometimes this kind of news breaks my heart but at this point i can't help but laugh and cry at the same time when i hear it. because even when i read it i know as a Muslim that this is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. as if a pregnancy renders a female judge incapable of any mental capacity, and is if there wasnt something called maternity leave. it's the idea that many if not most of these clergy have that in order for Islam to work, in order for it to cure us of all our ills, we must go backwards rather than progress alongside it. but then again i know even this kind of news would've been treated with some sense of absurdity 1000 years ago. so yeah, we have our share of dare i say ignorant scholars but thankfully there is no central authority but God. otherwise we'd be in a much larger mess. thanks for your comment alia, i admit that sometimes this kind of news breaks my heart but at this point i can’t help but laugh and cry at the same time when i hear it. because even when i read it i know as a Muslim that this is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. as if a pregnancy renders a female judge incapable of any mental capacity, and is if there wasnt something called maternity leave.

it’s the idea that many if not most of these clergy have that in order for Islam to work, in order for it to cure us of all our ills, we must go backwards rather than progress alongside it. but then again i know even this kind of news would’ve been treated with some sense of absurdity 1000 years ago.

so yeah, we have our share of dare i say ignorant scholars but thankfully there is no central authority but God. otherwise we’d be in a much larger mess.

thanks for your comment

]]> By: alia http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45699 alia Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:18:54 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45699 You know Nas, I really don't know whether I should be amused or agitated at this. I mean sure, it strikes an ironic chord and you can't help but quirk a smile at it all. But seriously, isn't this why when we get into arguments with people who attack religion, we hit a wall every time something like this comes up?You try to explain that'Islam is not like that', and that 'the actions of Muslims don't represent Islam' and come up with all the apologetic cliches of the weak..but to tell you the truth, sometimes, just sometimes, it incites in me so many negative feelings in the name of the religion I love so much and I feel doubtful, cynical and it makes me want to turn my back against all the religious scholars and clergymen...and just make my own judgment calls based on what I can interpret from God's words and his prophet's teachings. And I know that a cynical attitude will take me nowhere but down, and I know that being critical is not necessary negative, but I also know that I am getting tired. And I am a female, Muslim and I wear the hijab and I am shocked at the level of backwardness that many scholars exhibit and the herd-like attitude in the study of shari'a and mostly the lack of ijtihad (I include myself) when it comes to matters related to women.I have always admired people like Hamza Yusif and Amro Khaled because they speak religion through logic. Our muslim scholars need to understand that we live in a world that shows no mercy to the unreasonable. We have to make some sense to be respected. You know Nas, I really don’t know whether I should be amused or agitated at this. I mean sure, it strikes an ironic chord and you can’t help but quirk a smile at it all. But seriously, isn’t this why when we get into arguments with people who attack religion, we hit a wall every time something like this comes up?You try to explain that’Islam is not like that’, and that ‘the actions of Muslims don’t represent Islam’ and come up with all the apologetic cliches of the weak..but to tell you the truth, sometimes, just sometimes, it incites in me so many negative feelings in the name of the religion I love so much and I feel doubtful, cynical and it makes me want to turn my back against all the religious scholars and clergymen…and just make my own judgment calls based on what I can interpret from God’s words and his prophet’s teachings. And I know that a cynical attitude will take me nowhere but down, and I know that being critical is not necessary negative, but I also know that I am getting tired. And I am a female, Muslim and I wear the hijab and I am shocked at the level of backwardness that many scholars exhibit and the herd-like attitude in the study of shari’a and mostly the lack of ijtihad (I include myself) when it comes to matters related to women.I have always admired people like Hamza Yusif and Amro Khaled because they speak religion through logic. Our muslim scholars need to understand that we live in a world that shows no mercy to the unreasonable. We have to make some sense to be respected.

]]> By: Khalidah http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45393 Khalidah Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:27:36 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45393 Oh boy oh boy ... Creative minds in finding new ways to put is full force in the reverse mode ... The Iranian paradise really cracked me up ... Oh boy oh boy …

Creative minds in finding new ways to put is full force in the reverse mode …

The Iranian paradise really cracked me up …

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45362 Nas Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:46:43 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45362 wael: those are all complex answers to which i don't have the answers to and i'd be weary of any one who claims they do. but we've become so dependent on the idea of lacking leadership as the source of the problem that even if actual leadership did come up and say follow me no one would. we need someone to "show us" right from wrong, to "show us" the right track as you put it. it seems to me that it's not a matter of showing. minds have grown lazy and so has the willingness to do anything in the name of Islam. and so when we say "show us" we mean "tell us". tell us to jump off the cliff and we will. but that's not leadership. that's babysitting. it's dictation. and it's one of the reason bin laden is so successful. wael: those are all complex answers to which i don’t have the answers to and i’d be weary of any one who claims they do.

but we’ve become so dependent on the idea of lacking leadership as the source of the problem that even if actual leadership did come up and say follow me no one would.

we need someone to “show us” right from wrong, to “show us” the right track as you put it.

it seems to me that it’s not a matter of showing. minds have grown lazy and so has the willingness to do anything in the name of Islam.

and so when we say “show us” we mean “tell us”. tell us to jump off the cliff and we will.

but that’s not leadership. that’s babysitting. it’s dictation.

and it’s one of the reason bin laden is so successful.

]]> By: Wael http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45356 Wael Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:04:16 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45356 Nas: it's so easy to detect stupidity actions in the name of Islam.. but the the hard part is to find the right road to Islam.. who is is going to lead us to the right track? who is going to tell us what is right or wrong? And now we should ask our selfs what exactly Islam is? Nas: it’s so easy to detect stupidity actions in the name of Islam.. but the the hard part is to find the right road to Islam.. who is is going to lead us to the right track? who is going to tell us what is right or wrong? And now we should ask our selfs what exactly Islam is?

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45339 Nas Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:20:13 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45339 Qwaider, I think this all came free of charge. stupidity tends to come without a price tag Qwaider, I think this all came free of charge.

stupidity tends to come without a price tag

]]> By: Qwaider قويدر http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45317 Qwaider قويدر Sun, 04 Mar 2007 07:35:21 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/03/04/stupidity-in-the-name-of-islam/#comment-45317 You know, it's like we paid someone to come up with the worst scenario ... and he did a better job than George Bush You know, it’s like we paid someone to come up with the worst scenario … and he did a better job than George Bush

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