Comments on: Free And Fair http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/ A Jordanian Blog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:58:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Jordanian Blogosphere | Nine Crimes & Other September Stories : 7iber Dot Com http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85894 Jordanian Blogosphere | Nine Crimes & Other September Stories : 7iber Dot Com Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:10:45 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85894 [...] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. [...] […] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. […]

]]> By: Jordanian Blogosphere | Nine Crimes & Other September Stories : 7iber Dot Com http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85895 Jordanian Blogosphere | Nine Crimes & Other September Stories : 7iber Dot Com Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:10:44 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85895 [...] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. [...] […] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. […]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Jordan: Nine Crimes & Other September Stories http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85875 Global Voices Online » Jordan: Nine Crimes & Other September Stories Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:40:58 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85875 [...] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. [...] […] Naseem Tarawnah wonders if The Jordan Times made a propagandistic mistake by the use of the words “Free and Fair” in describing a US House resolution commending Jordan for its municipal elections. Ahmad Ghashmary writes of a Jordanian MP from the Islamic Brotherhood, who was attacked and had part of his beard shaved off. […]

]]> By: mo http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85706 mo Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:06:58 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85706 i dont think the question is was it free or fair or wasnt it .. i think the real question is why is congress passing a bill about this anyway as long as jordan continues to be a faithful ally, you can count on the US always considering any elections held there to be free and fair .. in fact they won't care if jordan cancels elections altogether i dont think the question is was it free or fair or wasnt it .. i think the real question is why is congress passing a bill about this

anyway as long as jordan continues to be a faithful ally, you can count on the US always considering any elections held there to be free and fair .. in fact they won’t care if jordan cancels elections altogether

]]> By: imad http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85684 imad Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85684 You're right, the Jordan Times came to its own conclusion there. But perhaps since the text of the resolution is void of any concerns or negative remarks, it does signal as a general Bravo to the government. As for the notion that the gov't-friendly media in this case (JT & Rai) are rubbing the resolution in the Islamists' face does not really really make sense, but rather enforces the Islamists' argument that the regime is peddling too closely to the Americans and their "project/agenda". ps. Nas the links to the HR in your post aren't functioning... here's an alternative anyway for those who want to read it: http://www.snake.ne.jp/~yama/nph-docomo.cgi/010000A/http/frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:hr575eh.txt You’re right, the Jordan Times came to its own conclusion there. But perhaps since the text of the resolution is void of any concerns or negative remarks, it does signal as a general Bravo to the government.

As for the notion that the gov’t-friendly media in this case (JT & Rai) are rubbing the resolution in the Islamists’ face does not really really make sense, but rather enforces the Islamists’ argument that the regime is peddling too closely to the Americans and their “project/agenda”.

ps. Nas the links to the HR in your post aren’t functioning… here’s an alternative anyway for those who want to read it: http://www.snake.ne.jp/~yama/nph-docomo.cgi/010000A/http/frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:hr575eh.txt

]]> By: Yael http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85677 Yael Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:08:59 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85677 Marwa7een, "...but few arabs like child-murdering, ethnic cleansing zionists." Shouldn't there be a threshold in language when referring to nations' foreign policies and its people? You'd be surprised how many Zionists don't like child-murderings and ethnic cleansing, either. Show me a government free of crimes against humanities. Jordan, perhaps? At least in previous century, Europe seems to top them all, by far. What do you mean or who do you refer to when you use the term Zionist? Perhaps you could write to me privately. On the bright side, I understand that there's growing trade between Jordan and Israel and that several thousand Jordanian families are benefiting from that, especially in the textile industry, and vice versa. Pardon for my naiveté, but it feels as if generic US and Zionists' bashing is a kind of sport one earns points for. What's the prize? Can that pattern be broken? peace Marwa7een,

“…but few arabs like child-murdering, ethnic cleansing zionists.”

Shouldn’t there be a threshold in language when referring to nations’ foreign policies and its people?

You’d be surprised how many Zionists don’t like child-murderings and ethnic cleansing, either. Show me a government free of crimes against humanities. Jordan, perhaps? At least in previous century, Europe seems to top them all, by far.

What do you mean or who do you refer to when you use the term Zionist? Perhaps you could write to me privately.

On the bright side, I understand that there’s growing trade between Jordan and Israel and that several thousand Jordanian families are benefiting from that, especially in the textile industry, and vice versa.

Pardon for my naiveté, but it feels as if generic US and Zionists’ bashing is a kind of sport one earns points for. What’s the prize?
Can that pattern be broken?

peace

]]> By: Marwa7een http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85641 Marwa7een Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:01:17 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85641 hatem, how did you jump to the conclusion that if I like to have Uncle Sam's education and to watch Uncle Sam's films and to earn an Uncle Sam's salary that somehow I like Uncle Sam and all his crimes against humanity? by the same measure, who does not like to have zionist strength and R&D and education but few arabs like child-murdering, ethnic cleansing zionists. In Logic 101 they call this a non sequitur. hatem, how did you jump to the conclusion that if I like to have Uncle Sam’s education and to watch Uncle Sam’s films and to earn an Uncle Sam’s salary that somehow I like Uncle Sam and all his crimes against humanity?

by the same measure, who does not like to have zionist strength and R&D and education but few arabs like child-murdering, ethnic cleansing zionists.

In Logic 101 they call this a non sequitur.

]]> By: hatem abunimeh http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85637 hatem abunimeh Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:47:58 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85637 Rabee3, Polls are also showing that Jordanians love American education, American music and movies, American advancements in science and technology, and above all american freedom and democracy. Rabee3,
Polls are also showing that Jordanians love American education, American music and movies, American advancements in science and technology, and above all american freedom and democracy.

]]> By: alurdunialhurr http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85576 alurdunialhurr Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:18:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85576 يا نسيم خاف الله،جاي تقتبس أكبر صهيوني مجرم؟هل عندك فكره مين هوا توم لنتوس،هذا ألانان أكبر صهيوني عنصري،بل الله عليك يعني مكيف علي حالك شوا قال هذا المجرم عن الانتخابات ،طيب عرفت من هوا هذا المجرم وأكثرالناس كرها للعرب والمسلمين يا نسيم خاف الله،جاي تقتبس أكبر صهيوني مجرم؟هل عندك فكره مين هوا توم لنتوس،هذا ألانان أكبر صهيوني عنصري،بل الله عليك يعني مكيف علي حالك شوا قال هذا المجرم عن الانتخابات ،طيب عرفت من هوا هذا المجرم وأكثرالناس كرها للعرب والمسلمين

]]> By: Rabee3 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85555 Rabee3 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:33:05 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85555 hatem, are you for real? what special relationship between American people and jordanians? polls show Jordanians to be the most anti-imperialist arab country. and there is no US commitment to support jordan. there is a commitment to support the non-democratic regime so long as it supports anglo-zionist interests. thank you for your sense of humor. hatem, are you for real? what special relationship between American people and jordanians? polls show Jordanians to be the most anti-imperialist arab country. and there is no US commitment to support jordan. there is a commitment to support the non-democratic regime so long as it supports anglo-zionist interests.

thank you for your sense of humor.

]]> By: hamede http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85525 hamede Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:09:10 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85525 Hahahaa,that was a good joke. Hahahaa,that was a good joke.

]]> By: hatem abunimeh http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85507 hatem abunimeh Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:58:59 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85507 Items 4 and 5 sound good to me. Perhaps the reporter that drafted the piece was overzealous, biased, or was told to include "free and fair" in the mix. Items 4 and 5 sound good to me. Perhaps the reporter that drafted the piece was overzealous, biased, or was told to include “free and fair” in the mix.

]]> By: Qattan http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85487 Qattan Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:50:20 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85487 OH NO!!! I had some doubts about the fairness of the municipal elections, but when ultra-zionist and arab-bashing congressman Tom Lantos says the Jordanian elections are fair, I KNOW FOR SURE THE ELECTIONS ARE A FRAUD. What a fine example of how the USA will back dictators to the determent of the people. Nothing good ever comes from the Americans or those they endorse. OH NO!!! I had some doubts about the fairness of the municipal elections, but when ultra-zionist and arab-bashing congressman Tom Lantos says the Jordanian elections are fair, I KNOW FOR SURE THE ELECTIONS ARE A FRAUD.

What a fine example of how the USA will back dictators to the determent of the people. Nothing good ever comes from the Americans or those they endorse.

]]> By: khalid jarrar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85484 khalid jarrar Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:20:58 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85484 Free and Fair :P That's like a poke lal ikhawn:P Free and Fair :P

That’s like a poke lal ikhawn:P

]]> By: Batir Wardam http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85476 Batir Wardam Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:55:28 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/07/free-and-fair/#comment-85476 Spot on Nas. I think the Jordan Times editorial had this news items pushed by the management of the big Arabic brother. Spot on Nas. I think the Jordan Times editorial had this news items pushed by the management of the big Arabic brother.

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