Comments on: Orange, Zain And Their Towers Of Babel Outside My Home! http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/ A Jordanian Blog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:59:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Um Omar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-121015 Um Omar Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:47:12 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-121015 SubhanAllah. Yesterday I went to visit a friend who had moved, and I drove right past this! I was like, wow, there is Naseem's house. Anyway, my friend lives behind you and down the hill. Outside of her house, I tried to call her and THERE WAS NO RECEPTION! So, you are still right. Ugh. Small world. SubhanAllah. Yesterday I went to visit a friend who had moved, and I drove right past this! I was like, wow, there is Naseem’s house. Anyway, my friend lives behind you and down the hill. Outside of her house, I tried to call her and THERE WAS NO RECEPTION! So, you are still right. Ugh. Small world.

]]> By: Commentor http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-90165 Commentor Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:35:41 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-90165 Good Day All, I am seeing from previous comments were posted that 1800 MHz is advance technelogy for GSM. But i am talking from technical perspective that 900 MHz is much better in serving In-door covarge. the factor of panatration RF signal through building and construction material for 900 MHz is much better. New Technologies were built bosed on 2100 Mhz for UMTS service is not effecient such as used on lower frequency range. They commity of standarization for UMTS is Formulating New standard for UMTS based on 900 MHz that already used at GSM. So, My advice for you. Use Network having 900 MHz in operation such Zain or Orange. Good Day All,

I am seeing from previous comments were posted that 1800 MHz is advance technelogy for GSM.

But i am talking from technical perspective that 900 MHz is much better in serving In-door covarge. the factor of panatration RF signal through building and construction material for 900 MHz is much better.

New Technologies were built bosed on 2100 Mhz for UMTS service is not effecient such as used on lower frequency range. They commity of standarization for UMTS is Formulating New standard for UMTS based on 900 MHz that already used at GSM.

So, My advice for you. Use Network having 900 MHz in operation such Zain or Orange.

]]> By: B http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89901 B Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:55:08 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89901 With all DUE respect .. I am an arab after all ;-) With all DUE respect .. I am an arab after all ;-)

]]> By: B http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89897 B Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:39:07 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89897 Basem, With all do respect: 1. research has not been able to prove is due to lack of interest rather than lack of evidence. 2. the 6 meter clearance ensures short term safety. Nothing is said about being exposure to RF (even at lower powers) for hours and days and year, as in living next to an antenna panel. 3. while mobile phone antennas are also dangerous, you are exposed to the MUCH smaller antennas for much shorter of a time (during a call). I am not anti wireless industry, but a country should have laws about where towers are placed, perform EMF studies before setting up the towers, and have hearings about towers as it is done elsewhere. Basem,

With all do respect:

1. research has not been able to prove is due to lack of interest rather than lack of evidence.

2. the 6 meter clearance ensures short term safety. Nothing is said about being exposure to RF (even at lower powers) for hours and days and year, as in living next to an antenna panel.

3. while mobile phone antennas are also dangerous, you are exposed to the MUCH smaller antennas for much shorter of a time (during a call).

I am not anti wireless industry, but a country should have laws about where towers are placed, perform EMF studies before setting up the towers, and have hearings about towers as it is done elsewhere.

]]> By: Basem http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89145 Basem Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:29:07 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-89145 Well Nas, ever since your panoramic photo experiment from the roof of your apartment building, I realized that you live in the very building that hosts one of XPress "base stations" that I've supervised its erection back in 04, what a juncture, but let me clarify few things and recommend some other: - Cellular networks base-stations have yet to prove any health risk to humans, the only "side-effect" to the exposure to its transmitted waves when at "close proximity" is a phenomena called "muscle tissue heating", its what happens to your ear after a prolong chat on the phone, reddish skin and literally feeling your ear warmed up, and that's about it. - In general, if the antennas (the white rectangular finger-like shape at the tip of the structure) are 6 meters away from the roof and clears 6-meters away from the nearest building(s), that should be enough to avoid being in "close proximity" from the powerful parts of the transmission field of the base-station. - and for the health conscious/savvy, a mobile phone transmitting next to one's head is far too "dangerous" in comparison to a base-station transmitting at the top of the roof of one's building or the building next door, including those CoWs (Cell-on-Wheels) in front of your house, note that to date, the "danger" of mobile phones and its networks is still a matter of perspective, google "the Stewart report" if you fancy an impartial, official & detailed read into this. Back to your dilemma… as some suggested, file a complaint at the environmental police (rangers) against the loud noise generated from the on-board electricity generators of these CoWs. They should've used silenced generators when deploying such stations at residential areas. And if you're really devoted to this issue, you can verify if the two companies hold valid municipality and TRC approvals for these locations, the TRC is not very keen with the four operators littering Jordan with unauthorized base-stations. As far as the issue of coverage, your best bet as many suggested is to switch operator and have your existing number forward calls to your new one until the matter is resolved, as Isam explain above, your phone is bouncing between two base-stations at close proximity (from your roof: look towards the French school you'll spot one for Zain and another for Orange) along with the ones in front of your house. And by this, I conclude another unnecessary lengthy comment to get-through this part of a Ramadan day (time tend to freeze between Asr and Maghreb). Well Nas, ever since your panoramic photo experiment from the roof of your apartment building, I realized that you live in the very building that hosts one of XPress “base stations” that I’ve supervised its erection back in 04, what a juncture, but let me clarify few things and recommend some other:

- Cellular networks base-stations have yet to prove any health risk to humans, the only “side-effect” to the exposure to its transmitted waves when at “close proximity” is a phenomena called “muscle tissue heating”, its what happens to your ear after a prolong chat on the phone, reddish skin and literally feeling your ear warmed up, and that’s about it.
- In general, if the antennas (the white rectangular finger-like shape at the tip of the structure) are 6 meters away from the roof and clears 6-meters away from the nearest building(s), that should be enough to avoid being in “close proximity” from the powerful parts of the transmission field of the base-station.
- and for the health conscious/savvy, a mobile phone transmitting next to one’s head is far too “dangerous” in comparison to a base-station transmitting at the top of the roof of one’s building or the building next door, including those CoWs (Cell-on-Wheels) in front of your house, note that to date, the “danger” of mobile phones and its networks is still a matter of perspective, google “the Stewart report” if you fancy an impartial, official & detailed read into this.

Back to your dilemma… as some suggested, file a complaint at the environmental police (rangers) against the loud noise generated from the on-board electricity generators of these CoWs. They should’ve used silenced generators when deploying such stations at residential areas.

And if you’re really devoted to this issue, you can verify if the two companies hold valid municipality and TRC approvals for these locations, the TRC is not very keen with the four operators littering Jordan with unauthorized base-stations.

As far as the issue of coverage, your best bet as many suggested is to switch operator and have your existing number forward calls to your new one until the matter is resolved, as Isam explain above, your phone is bouncing between two base-stations at close proximity (from your roof: look towards the French school you’ll spot one for Zain and another for Orange) along with the ones in front of your house.

And by this, I conclude another unnecessary lengthy comment to get-through this part of a Ramadan day (time tend to freeze between Asr and Maghreb).

]]> By: Oula Farawati http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88243 Oula Farawati Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:14:39 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88243 just go live somewhere else.. I think it should be easier... you might wanna go back to Canada, the reception must be better there (or go to Karak, they have amazing reception)..see.. many practical solutions that could be easier than getting the company to do anything... I have complained so many times that my Zain reception is very bad, but no one listened! The TRC recently put an ad in the paper asking people to write to them if they have any network problems.. u might wanna try them! just go live somewhere else.. I think it should be easier… you might wanna go back to Canada, the reception must be better there (or go to Karak, they have amazing reception)..see.. many practical solutions that could be easier than getting the company to do anything… I have complained so many times that my Zain reception is very bad, but no one listened! The TRC recently put an ad in the paper asking people to write to them if they have any network problems.. u might wanna try them!

]]> By: Isam http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88117 Isam Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:12:56 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88117 man i have the same problem back in amman ... and the fatlink guys came and checked it ... the problem is when u have two or more access points available from your house ... and none of them is dominant ... any movement of the phone causes a hand-over between the two sources which results in a loss of connection ... if u want to be sure thats the case use a headset and keep the mobile on a table or sth ,,, if the calls are clear ... then this is ur problem ,,, hope i can help man i have the same problem back in amman … and the fatlink guys came and checked it … the problem is when u have two or more access points available from your house … and none of them is dominant … any movement of the phone causes a hand-over between the two sources which results in a loss of connection … if u want to be sure thats the case use a headset and keep the mobile on a table or sth ,,, if the calls are clear … then this is ur problem ,,,

hope i can help

]]> By: khalid jarrar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88066 khalid jarrar Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:54:28 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88066 ** shy face ** i have a flue and slept after f6oor and woke up with nothing to do while everyone is asleep :*( sorry :( ** shy face **

i have a flue and slept after f6oor and woke up with nothing to do while everyone is asleep :*(

sorry :(

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88063 Nas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:23:49 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88063 <b>B:</b> thanks! very helpful <b>Firas:</b> they're not as loud as for example those ones they get for construction but they are loud yes. <b>Qwaider:</b> I think 9a7eb il 2ard is maf8ood. in other words, missing in action. one of those pieces of land that was inherited by various people all of whom are somewhere else. i've suggest the pump gun but my father insists on a slingshot. i'd like to end this without the violence and vigilantism, despites it being some times necessary in Jordan. <b>Khalid:</b> loool brother...you are all over the place after ftoor! :-D B: thanks! very helpful

Firas: they’re not as loud as for example those ones they get for construction but they are loud yes.

Qwaider: I think 9a7eb il 2ard is maf8ood. in other words, missing in action. one of those pieces of land that was inherited by various people all of whom are somewhere else. i’ve suggest the pump gun but my father insists on a slingshot. i’d like to end this without the violence and vigilantism, despites it being some times necessary in Jordan.

Khalid: loool brother…you are all over the place after ftoor! :-D

]]> By: khalid jarrar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88048 khalid jarrar Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:35:26 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88048 yay no9 nera :D and the loud noise comes from the generator, thats what makes the loud noise, electricity generator to operate the towers of babel. btw, hehe, i went with dad couple of months ago to see Babel bil cenima, all the rest of the family was msafreen. we thought that its about babylon, so we watched patiently waiting for the movie to reach the part about Babylon, and waited and waited, and then we forgot the babylon part and indamajna bil filim, after the end and when we left...dad looked at me and said: 6b shoo 3ilaqtoh il filim fi babel? hahaha:D you reminded me of that now:) babel is a nice movie, late i know, you probably watched it already by now:) biddi a6ayif :( yay no9 nera :D

and the loud noise comes from the generator, thats what makes the loud noise, electricity generator to operate the towers of babel.

btw, hehe, i went with dad couple of months ago to see Babel bil cenima, all the rest of the family was msafreen. we thought that its about babylon, so we watched patiently waiting for the movie to reach the part about Babylon, and waited and waited, and then we forgot the babylon part and indamajna bil filim, after the end and when we left…dad looked at me and said: 6b shoo 3ilaqtoh il filim fi babel?
hahaha:D

you reminded me of that now:)

babel is a nice movie, late i know, you probably watched it already by now:)

biddi a6ayif :(

]]> By: Qwaider قويدر http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88038 Qwaider قويدر Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:55:49 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88038 Nas, how about this... Find out who the land owner is where they have the Vans parked, and call them and let them know that someone is illegally parking their trucks on their land. If that doesn't work, then invest in one of those nice little pump guns, and practice shooting on their expensive antennas :) Good luck, I really hope someone from Orange reads this and actually does something about it! Instead of intimidating customers like that Nas, how about this…
Find out who the land owner is where they have the Vans parked, and call them and let them know that someone is illegally parking their trucks on their land.
If that doesn’t work, then invest in one of those nice little pump guns, and practice shooting on their expensive antennas :)

Good luck, I really hope someone from Orange reads this and actually does something about it! Instead of intimidating customers like that

]]> By: Firas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88036 Firas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:36:44 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88036 Yeah that didn't cross my mind since I've never suffered from this (Overpriced Zain rules). When I've read the title first I was too excited, I thought we'll be seeing some action in Jordan, a little bit jealous of Egypt http://www.echr.org/en/ws/02/cellphone.htm The last time some people inside Jordan's Elec authority blow the whistle on high power grids ,they were laid off. Nevertheless, anyone who lives under these grids have been offered some money in return of signing a release form (and it was a success for them! A 1000 lera means a lot for many people). Aren't these generators too loud? Call the ministry of environment, if that didn't work, call some petrol station and tell them about the Disel tanks, they'll be happy to pump it out at 4am...send these companies a message that they are in the wrong neighborhood . Happy Ramadan btw. Yeah that didn’t cross my mind since I’ve never suffered from this (Overpriced Zain rules).
When I’ve read the title first I was too excited, I thought we’ll be seeing some action in Jordan, a little bit jealous of Egypt http://www.echr.org/en/ws/02/cellphone.htm
The last time some people inside Jordan’s Elec authority blow the whistle on high power grids ,they were laid off.
Nevertheless, anyone who lives under these grids have been offered some money in return of signing a release form (and it was a success for them! A 1000 lera means a lot for many people).

Aren’t these generators too loud? Call the ministry of environment, if that didn’t work, call some petrol station and tell them about the Disel tanks, they’ll be happy to pump it out at 4am…send these companies a message that they are in the wrong neighborhood .

Happy Ramadan btw.

]]> By: B http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88035 B Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:21:39 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88035 check this out: http://url.uploadr.com/1bca. Hope it helps. check this out: http://url.uploadr.com/1bca.

Hope it helps.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88029 Nas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:22:43 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88029 <b>Firas:</b> thanks for the comments, but I should note that I do feel a health concern but I dont know enough about it to articulate that. That issue aside, the quality of calls is important to me. I make and receive very important work-related calls and I can't be screaming at important people "can you hear me now?!" Firas: thanks for the comments, but I should note that I do feel a health concern but I dont know enough about it to articulate that. That issue aside, the quality of calls is important to me. I make and receive very important work-related calls and I can’t be screaming at important people “can you hear me now?!”

]]> By: tinkerbella http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88027 tinkerbella Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:50:04 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88027 I found it funny that so many ppl suggested you swtich carriers as a solution, even though you are (or were!) very happy with your current carrier. Isn't it sad how our mindset is? It used to be that the companies really didn't give a crap about customers because they knew you had no choice: they were the sole providers of the service, so you had to shut up and take it if you wanted the service. But now, especially with cell phone service, there is alot of choice and competition (in fact, ALOT of choice given the number of cell phone companies and the size of Jordan!!) that customer service should really be getting better and better instead of worse. Its not enough to be polite when you're calling, but to actually feel that the person on the other end is willing to do something (and actually does!) to fix your problem because they care.. But yes, until we have a country where you don't need to (quoting you) "pull certain strings" and actually have to play by the rules, we are never going to start that trek uphill. I found it funny that so many ppl suggested you swtich carriers as a solution, even though you are (or were!) very happy with your current carrier.
Isn’t it sad how our mindset is? It used to be that the companies really didn’t give a crap about customers because they knew you had no choice: they were the sole providers of the service, so you had to shut up and take it if you wanted the service.
But now, especially with cell phone service, there is alot of choice and competition (in fact, ALOT of choice given the number of cell phone companies and the size of Jordan!!) that customer service should really be getting better and better instead of worse.

Its not enough to be polite when you’re calling, but to actually feel that the person on the other end is willing to do something (and actually does!) to fix your problem because they care..

But yes, until we have a country where you don’t need to (quoting you) “pull certain strings” and actually have to play by the rules, we are never going to start that trek uphill.

]]> By: Firas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88026 Firas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:38:07 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88026 Ok I've just read your reply now NAS. These loud things are ELec Generators, they run on Diesel. If you need their blueprints....you know who to talk with :D Ok I’ve just read your reply now NAS.

These loud things are ELec Generators, they run on Diesel.

If you need their blueprints….you know who to talk with :D

]]> By: Firas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88025 Firas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:36:23 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88025 Actually,I think you should be more concerned about the health issues. I've always wondered what the law got to say about your adjacent neighbor putting one of those over their home. And don't these towers got elec. generators mounted on a trailer? Are they noisy too? Well you know now where to get Diesel in the winter (yes the generators trailers got diesel tanks inside :D) Anyways, I thought this was about people vs. corporations thing,I'm a little bit disappointed. I would have loved it to see people lobbying, pressuring the parliament to come up with laws to protect their health. Apparently they are mostly concerned about the quality of their calls. As for the reception issue, and I am a tad ignorant when it comes to communications, using directional or bi-directional antennas mean those living right beneath will have issues. I think there is no LOS established or something, ok I better not "atfalsafing",,,, Actually,I think you should be more concerned about the health issues.

I’ve always wondered what the law got to say about your adjacent neighbor putting one of those over their home. And don’t these towers got elec. generators mounted on a trailer? Are they noisy too? Well you know now where to get Diesel in the winter (yes the generators trailers got diesel tanks inside :D)

Anyways, I thought this was about people vs. corporations thing,I’m a little bit disappointed. I would have loved it to see people lobbying, pressuring the parliament to come up with laws to protect their health. Apparently they are mostly concerned about the quality of their calls.

As for the reception issue, and I am a tad ignorant when it comes to communications, using directional or bi-directional antennas mean those living right beneath will have issues. I think there is no LOS established or something, ok I better not “atfalsafing”,,,,

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88024 Nas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:31:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88024 Hamzeh, well you're the techie expert but i never had another service other than mobilcom my whole life. Hamzeh, well you’re the techie expert but i never had another service other than mobilcom my whole life.

]]> By: Hamzeh N. http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88022 Hamzeh N. Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:29:41 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88022 Nas, I think the reason your reception is very bad is because the two new towers are for carriers that both use the same frequency (GSM 900). This probably causes too much interference seen by your phone, which makes it relatively unable to have its own conversation with the Orange tower. Umniah is a GSM 1800 carrier, so it probably never interfered with your Mobilecom of FastLink service, whichever one you had before. Nas, I think the reason your reception is very bad is because the two new towers are for carriers that both use the same frequency (GSM 900). This probably causes too much interference seen by your phone, which makes it relatively unable to have its own conversation with the Orange tower.

Umniah is a GSM 1800 carrier, so it probably never interfered with your Mobilecom of FastLink service, whichever one you had before.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88020 Nas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:22:31 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88020 For everyone who mentioned the health aspect, I completely agree. This is something I chose not to mention simply because I am not well versed in the extent of their threat. I also did not mention the fact that these two towers come on top of box cars which have some sort of machine in them that is incredibly loud! For everyone who mentioned I should switch carriers. As Ohoud said, I don't think that will solve the problem. My friend is with umniah and will get bad reception at my house where there is now a tower for every other cell phone carrier in the country. [Khalid: most of my posts these days were prepared before ramadan and are scheduled to be released now. i usually do that when i know i have a busy week ahead of me. And yes, I am keeping track of all the piasters brother. You're at about half a JD now :-D ] For everyone who mentioned the health aspect, I completely agree. This is something I chose not to mention simply because I am not well versed in the extent of their threat.

I also did not mention the fact that these two towers come on top of box cars which have some sort of machine in them that is incredibly loud!

For everyone who mentioned I should switch carriers. As Ohoud said, I don’t think that will solve the problem. My friend is with umniah and will get bad reception at my house where there is now a tower for every other cell phone carrier in the country.

[Khalid: most of my posts these days were prepared before ramadan and are scheduled to be released now. i usually do that when i know i have a busy week ahead of me. And yes, I am keeping track of all the piasters brother. You’re at about half a JD now :-D ]

]]> By: B http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88017 B Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:14:39 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88017 I would be much worried about RF exposure than losing your coverage. I would raise the issue from a "health concern" aspect. There have been many (still ongoing) research regarding the hazards of RF exposure. There have been no confirmation yet, but looking @ what happens when food is put in a microwave oven (granted, a much exaggerated citing) would give you an idea. The key word(s) here are "long term constant exposure). I would be much worried about RF exposure than losing your coverage. I would raise the issue from a “health concern” aspect. There have been many (still ongoing) research regarding the hazards of RF exposure. There have been no confirmation yet, but looking @ what happens when food is put in a microwave oven (granted, a much exaggerated citing) would give you an idea. The key word(s) here are “long term constant exposure).

]]> By: khalid jarrar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88012 khalid jarrar Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:56:03 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88012 and! man where do you get that energy to post all that much from?! and where all all the piasters for my thoughts? are you keeping track? and!
man where do you get that energy to post all that much from?! and where all all the piasters for my thoughts? are you keeping track?

]]> By: khalid jarrar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88011 khalid jarrar Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:54:30 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88011 Man i changed to Umnia ages ago, not only the prices are just beoynd way much cheaper for the same services, but the network is more advanced technology wise, its the only provider that give give you internet of 256kbps right to your handset, or to your laptop if using your mobile as a modem (Assuming your mobile ias EDGE technology). all other networks give you up to 128! and believe me, i really dont have complains about the signal at all. promotions and gifts are much better too. switch to umnia man i am telling you! Man i changed to Umnia ages ago, not only the prices are just beoynd way much cheaper for the same services, but the network is more advanced technology wise, its the only provider that give give you internet of 256kbps right to your handset, or to your laptop if using your mobile as a modem (Assuming your mobile ias EDGE technology). all other networks give you up to 128!

and believe me, i really dont have complains about the signal at all. promotions and gifts are much better too.

switch to umnia man i am telling you!

]]> By: Ohoud http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88007 Ohoud Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:03:33 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88007 This problem is surely not solved by changing the mobile line, it will need some serious research. I mean, who knows what health impact they have on people! does the company have the right to put them there in the first place as you said, what kind of authority do they think they have to make people agree to put their satellites on their building with the offer that suits them! Hope this will not fall on deaf ears This problem is surely not solved by changing the mobile line, it will need some serious research.

I mean, who knows what health impact they have on people! does the company have the right to put them there in the first place as you said, what kind of authority do they think they have to make people agree to put their satellites on their building with the offer that suits them!

Hope this will not fall on deaf ears

]]> By: Sana http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88001 Sana Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:34:47 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-88001 hehehe! very good article and I hope that the situation will get better! hehehe! very good article and I hope that the situation will get better!

]]> By: Moey http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87973 Moey Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:48:32 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87973 hahahaha, loved the article and toon :) hahahaha, loved the article and toon :)

]]> By: Jad http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87970 Jad Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:57:20 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87970 I'm considering to switch to Umnia, some friends did convert and they're happy of their service coverage and pricing schema. I’m considering to switch to Umnia, some friends did convert and they’re happy of their service coverage and pricing schema.

]]> By: asoom http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87969 asoom Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:52:13 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87969 if you switched to a different company will you still have the same reception issues? if you switched to a different company will you still have the same reception issues?

]]> By: nasimjo http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87968 nasimjo Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:36:46 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/19/orange-zain-and-their-towers-of-babel-outside-my-home/#comment-87968 haha ... liked the comic ad u made at the end :) check my blog for my opinion(s) ... man, switch to Umniah or Xpress .. for real! haha … liked the comic ad u made at the end :)

check my blog for my opinion(s) … man, switch to Umniah or Xpress .. for real!

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