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		<title>By: alurdunialhurr</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90842</link>
		<dc:creator>alurdunialhurr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mohammad</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90834</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90834</guid>
		<description>I find it interesting that in countries like Jordan (i.e. lacking true democracy) the government and the intelligence are masters and the people are slaves, whereas the only reason there should be a government and intelligence is to serve the needs the people. In the US the CIA and other security agencies capitalize on fear of terrorism to acquire privileges they should not have, similar to the way Muhannad is trying to justify. However, in Jordan they do not usually feel compelled to justify their privileges, they take them for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that in countries like Jordan (i.e. lacking true democracy) the government and the intelligence are masters and the people are slaves, whereas the only reason there should be a government and intelligence is to serve the needs the people. In the US the CIA and other security agencies capitalize on fear of terrorism to acquire privileges they should not have, similar to the way Muhannad is trying to justify. However, in Jordan they do not usually feel compelled to justify their privileges, they take them for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90777</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90777</guid>
		<description>:(</description>
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		<title>By: saad</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90773</link>
		<dc:creator>saad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90773</guid>
		<description>"and others are making the call [for equality] a tool"

muhannad, tool for what? could this be a conspiracy to promote equality? or could it be a plot to undermine social injustice? or might this be a cover for a sneak attempt at developing a more just society? tool for what?

or do you work for the ministry of health and you see a conspiracy to tarnish jordan's image. 

the only thing you are afraid of is that a more inclusive democracy will put an end to the unchecked looting and incompetent policy making.

you have not proven that you love jordan. talk is cheap, but the corruption index and failed state index are more proof of your patriotism than your chest-beating and sloganeering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and others are making the call [for equality] a tool&#8221;</p>
<p>muhannad, tool for what? could this be a conspiracy to promote equality? or could it be a plot to undermine social injustice? or might this be a cover for a sneak attempt at developing a more just society? tool for what?</p>
<p>or do you work for the ministry of health and you see a conspiracy to tarnish jordan&#8217;s image. </p>
<p>the only thing you are afraid of is that a more inclusive democracy will put an end to the unchecked looting and incompetent policy making.</p>
<p>you have not proven that you love jordan. talk is cheap, but the corruption index and failed state index are more proof of your patriotism than your chest-beating and sloganeering.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90770</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90770</guid>
		<description>Some calls for equality are genuine ones, and others are making the call for it a tool, which I think is wrong because of the  dire consequences that this technique might carry.

My Idea for equality begins with the economic and the social aspects and from there we can move to the political one, you might ask why? My answer is that we should do so to mitigate the risks of using propaganda to charge people with false emotions based on unattainable goals. And also because by providing socio-economic equality you build a good sense of citizenship that leads to more loyalty.

As for what is wrong with using call for equality to gain political points, I leave you with the thought of arab "democracy".

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some calls for equality are genuine ones, and others are making the call for it a tool, which I think is wrong because of the  dire consequences that this technique might carry.</p>
<p>My Idea for equality begins with the economic and the social aspects and from there we can move to the political one, you might ask why? My answer is that we should do so to mitigate the risks of using propaganda to charge people with false emotions based on unattainable goals. And also because by providing socio-economic equality you build a good sense of citizenship that leads to more loyalty.</p>
<p>As for what is wrong with using call for equality to gain political points, I leave you with the thought of arab &#8220;democracy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: hatem abunimeh</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90768</link>
		<dc:creator>hatem abunimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90768</guid>
		<description>Mohanned,
Let us assume for the sake of discussion that the so called request for equality is indeed a subtle call for more political gain [like you refer to it], so what is wrong with seeking political gains?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohanned,<br />
Let us assume for the sake of discussion that the so called request for equality is indeed a subtle call for more political gain [like you refer to it], so what is wrong with seeking political gains?!</p>
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		<title>By: Asoom</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90765</link>
		<dc:creator>Asoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90765</guid>
		<description>"If the King is disapproving of the policy to begin with, one has to wonder how it was approved to begin with.".....well stated and exactly what I was wondering!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the King is disapproving of the policy to begin with, one has to wonder how it was approved to begin with.&#8221;&#8230;..well stated and exactly what I was wondering!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90751</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90751</guid>
		<description>My responce was not displayed for some reason. But here is a thought for Khalid: The call for equality has become a tool for political gains rather than being the goal.

Do you also need elaborationa on this thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My responce was not displayed for some reason. But here is a thought for Khalid: The call for equality has become a tool for political gains rather than being the goal.</p>
<p>Do you also need elaborationa on this thought?</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90745</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90745</guid>
		<description>Mr Abunimeh

thank you!
but i assure you! i could never reciprocate, first because thats not who i am, and second because as i said, its not the people that do it on daily bases, the truth is that as i said also before, most my frineds are from karak. and of course i am not ashamed of my origion, i am annoyed about the frown that comes after my answer. and yes, little things, but accumilate to leave you feel that you are not a real citizen. and not like i go complain about it all the day, its the first time i ever talk about it online, and rarely ever brought it up in real life too.

thanks for your words again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Abunimeh</p>
<p>thank you!<br />
but i assure you! i could never reciprocate, first because thats not who i am, and second because as i said, its not the people that do it on daily bases, the truth is that as i said also before, most my frineds are from karak. and of course i am not ashamed of my origion, i am annoyed about the frown that comes after my answer. and yes, little things, but accumilate to leave you feel that you are not a real citizen. and not like i go complain about it all the day, its the first time i ever talk about it online, and rarely ever brought it up in real life too.</p>
<p>thanks for your words again.</p>
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		<title>By: hatem abunimeh</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90743</link>
		<dc:creator>hatem abunimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90743</guid>
		<description>Now I understand what you mean but hey so what, why would it bother you to state your origins? Are you ashamed or something? Perhaps not. Consider it as any other question, the person that is asking you â€œisâ€ merely doing his job. You are what you are, you canâ€™t change your skin color, you canâ€™t change your origins, and you canâ€™t stop those people from asking you, so what is left, try to train yourself that you are going to learn how to deal with all of these little pesky nuisances. As far as the clout is concern, Jordan is very well know for the rampant clout that exists in there, sometimes it is used to benefit you like the case with hunting rife, and other times it is used to harm you like the case with the car accident. It is mutually exclusive, you just have to be a little more understanding and tolerant, even if you feel that the other side is not treating you well, you donâ€™t have to reciprocate, why not be the good one, why not be the more tolerant one, why not be the more understanding one. People usually reciprocate, if you smile in their face they smile back, if you frown in their face they frown back. Just take it easy my friend and everything will be okay, you sound like a very mature young man, please donâ€™t waste your time in these side issues and take your eyes off the main prize, always look at the big picture, you said it yourself that these are pity things, so just leave them like that and move on, you are smarter than to waste your time on pity stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I understand what you mean but hey so what, why would it bother you to state your origins? Are you ashamed or something? Perhaps not. Consider it as any other question, the person that is asking you â€œisâ€ merely doing his job. You are what you are, you canâ€™t change your skin color, you canâ€™t change your origins, and you canâ€™t stop those people from asking you, so what is left, try to train yourself that you are going to learn how to deal with all of these little pesky nuisances. As far as the clout is concern, Jordan is very well know for the rampant clout that exists in there, sometimes it is used to benefit you like the case with hunting rife, and other times it is used to harm you like the case with the car accident. It is mutually exclusive, you just have to be a little more understanding and tolerant, even if you feel that the other side is not treating you well, you donâ€™t have to reciprocate, why not be the good one, why not be the more tolerant one, why not be the more understanding one. People usually reciprocate, if you smile in their face they smile back, if you frown in their face they frown back. Just take it easy my friend and everything will be okay, you sound like a very mature young man, please donâ€™t waste your time in these side issues and take your eyes off the main prize, always look at the big picture, you said it yourself that these are pity things, so just leave them like that and move on, you are smarter than to waste your time on pity stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90738</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90738</guid>
		<description>fair enough!

everytime i travel i get stopped at the borders and interrogated by mukhabarat and treated like a suspect for no reason, often asked about the names of people i met and places i visited, very often have my passport taken and sent to mukhabarat headquarted for further "tourtine" investigation.

When dead lines of registering classes are passed, its next ti impossible to get the regesiteration people register any new classes for you. if you happen to be fromt he same tribe its possible though. 

cousin got rear ended by a car in salt, since both the guy that hit him from the back and the traffic police happened to be both ra7a7lih, he decided that it was my cousins fault! and then 3eni 3enak he told him: look if you take this to court i will repeat my story under qasam, and you know this is more than enough in front of any judge.

its a ton of little stories like that. always, always asked: mnen 7ayyaka Allah? and then you see the frown when the answer is heard. or silence at best. a shy kind word rarely. '

listen :) i am not one of those people raising the slogan of "they hate us" at all. i am all for social integrity, i dont evaluate people based on their origin at all, i swear and God is my witness. and i am not saying that the country is full of discrimination on everyday bases and around every corner, it would be silly to say so, as i stated before, people treat you well in the south regardless of your origion, thats my experience, but its always that little extra when you are engaged with any governmental issue..

my dad bought a rifle to hunt in our farm, it took weeks before the mukhabarat refusal came! they refused giving a 55 years old buisnesman a lisence to have a hunting rifle. Our good Friend from a famous local tribe managed to make us one in notime. just entered the makhfar screaming keefkom ya garaba and things worked like magic, couple of weeks later we had the lisence.

other stories i dont want to tell here.

its things like that, little stupid things, that make you feel always like a second class citezen, with questioned loyality and a little bit smaller chances in getting any legitimate reequest answered than if you were one of the people with "priority".

and that feeling totally sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair enough!</p>
<p>everytime i travel i get stopped at the borders and interrogated by mukhabarat and treated like a suspect for no reason, often asked about the names of people i met and places i visited, very often have my passport taken and sent to mukhabarat headquarted for further &#8220;tourtine&#8221; investigation.</p>
<p>When dead lines of registering classes are passed, its next ti impossible to get the regesiteration people register any new classes for you. if you happen to be fromt he same tribe its possible though. </p>
<p>cousin got rear ended by a car in salt, since both the guy that hit him from the back and the traffic police happened to be both ra7a7lih, he decided that it was my cousins fault! and then 3eni 3enak he told him: look if you take this to court i will repeat my story under qasam, and you know this is more than enough in front of any judge.</p>
<p>its a ton of little stories like that. always, always asked: mnen 7ayyaka Allah? and then you see the frown when the answer is heard. or silence at best. a shy kind word rarely. &#8216;</p>
<p>listen <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> i am not one of those people raising the slogan of &#8220;they hate us&#8221; at all. i am all for social integrity, i dont evaluate people based on their origin at all, i swear and God is my witness. and i am not saying that the country is full of discrimination on everyday bases and around every corner, it would be silly to say so, as i stated before, people treat you well in the south regardless of your origion, thats my experience, but its always that little extra when you are engaged with any governmental issue..</p>
<p>my dad bought a rifle to hunt in our farm, it took weeks before the mukhabarat refusal came! they refused giving a 55 years old buisnesman a lisence to have a hunting rifle. Our good Friend from a famous local tribe managed to make us one in notime. just entered the makhfar screaming keefkom ya garaba and things worked like magic, couple of weeks later we had the lisence.</p>
<p>other stories i dont want to tell here.</p>
<p>its things like that, little stupid things, that make you feel always like a second class citezen, with questioned loyality and a little bit smaller chances in getting any legitimate reequest answered than if you were one of the people with &#8220;priority&#8221;.</p>
<p>and that feeling totally sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: hatem abunimeh</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90732</link>
		<dc:creator>hatem abunimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90732</guid>
		<description>Okay, now that we understand what do you mean by being equal, can you cite some specific examples from your own personal experience or that of one of your siblings where you felt that you were treated unequally or you were hindered due to whatever reason which may include but not limited to your gender, age, faith, ethnicity, or whatever other reason that was omitted in this discourse. The reason Iâ€™m asking for this specification because I happen to loathe generalizations, I like to resolve issues one by one without overwhelming myself with vague generalizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now that we understand what do you mean by being equal, can you cite some specific examples from your own personal experience or that of one of your siblings where you felt that you were treated unequally or you were hindered due to whatever reason which may include but not limited to your gender, age, faith, ethnicity, or whatever other reason that was omitted in this discourse. The reason Iâ€™m asking for this specification because I happen to loathe generalizations, I like to resolve issues one by one without overwhelming myself with vague generalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90728</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90728</guid>
		<description>is that a trick question? :D

dear Mr Hatem:

i am talking about equal treatment for every Jordanian in terms of equal apportunities for everyone seeking progress, and equal punishment for anyone that commits whatever makes one deserve it. Equal chances in achieving legitimate goals and equal treatment by the law. To be treated as "jordanians" without being asked about my origin, to be identified as Jordanians in the eyes of the law, and as jordanians ONLY, everyone of us citizens enjoying the citizenship of this country, working for its good and respecting its rules: without "priorities" as someone put it. 

To be treated as Jordanians and then gain equal access to govermental offices. Equal apportunities to fill them too! to have equal chances to correct what we see wrong through legitimate chanels, and critisice who we see mistaken no matter how high we aim as long as the heart is in the right place and the ways are legitimate. 

To gain equal protection and the same level of trust in the eyes of mukhabarat in the boarders. to be considered innocent unless otherwise proven and not the other way around. to be considered a good loyal citizen unlee proven otherwise. to have equal rights in freedom of expression and..

well, i guess you got the rhythim:)

you shall speak now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that a trick question? <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>dear Mr Hatem:</p>
<p>i am talking about equal treatment for every Jordanian in terms of equal apportunities for everyone seeking progress, and equal punishment for anyone that commits whatever makes one deserve it. Equal chances in achieving legitimate goals and equal treatment by the law. To be treated as &#8220;jordanians&#8221; without being asked about my origin, to be identified as Jordanians in the eyes of the law, and as jordanians ONLY, everyone of us citizens enjoying the citizenship of this country, working for its good and respecting its rules: without &#8220;priorities&#8221; as someone put it. </p>
<p>To be treated as Jordanians and then gain equal access to govermental offices. Equal apportunities to fill them too! to have equal chances to correct what we see wrong through legitimate chanels, and critisice who we see mistaken no matter how high we aim as long as the heart is in the right place and the ways are legitimate. </p>
<p>To gain equal protection and the same level of trust in the eyes of mukhabarat in the boarders. to be considered innocent unless otherwise proven and not the other way around. to be considered a good loyal citizen unlee proven otherwise. to have equal rights in freedom of expression and..</p>
<p>well, i guess you got the rhythim:)</p>
<p>you shall speak now! <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: hatem abunimeh</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90723</link>
		<dc:creator>hatem abunimeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90723</guid>
		<description>Mr. Jarrar, Iâ€™m curious about the â€œequalityâ€ that you are calling for. Are you interested in having equal rights under the law? And or are you interested in having equal rights to pursue your endeavors? Once I hear your reply, I will let you know what I want to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jarrar, Iâ€™m curious about the â€œequalityâ€ that you are calling for. Are you interested in having equal rights under the law? And or are you interested in having equal rights to pursue your endeavors? Once I hear your reply, I will let you know what I want to say.</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90708</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90708</guid>
		<description>and apologies Nas, here i am being nice again **malak ring** !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and apologies Nas, here i am being nice again **malak ring** !</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90707</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90707</guid>
		<description>jordan's interests? :D

how is jordan's interests interfering with the any of what i said? with calling for equality?  you can play with words now the way you like! but its obvsious that this isnt what you meant, and if your real answer was this innocent and clear and simple, there wouldnt be a need to guess i will have other meanings to load it with, no?

i guess your point is well taken and understood.

why do i use my last name? why dont you?:)
of course to distinguish me from other khalids, i am khalid jarrar just like he is naseem il 6awarna and she is roba il assi, where is the big mystery in that? :)

and of course i am proud of it too, Jarrar happens to be a family with significat patriot history, full of names that are famous for fighting the israeli occupation by all means, since early 40s and till now. I am proud of it just like anyone has the right to be proud of their small or extended family.

But it doesnt define me, i know more of 6arawna and `6moor, 7amayda and 7alal7ma than i know of the jarrars probably, because although i am proud of my family name, its only a small part of me, and it doesnt define me, i like to believe that there are enough skills and acievements in my life to define me, much more important to me than my last name, that i did no great acheivement to get it, just like everyone else in the world, other than getting born.

I am for using last names in social life, it helps getting families together etc. but in the eyes of laws, we all should be equal, that in my eyes is justice, and justice and equality is for the best interest of Jordan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jordan&#8217;s interests? <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>how is jordan&#8217;s interests interfering with the any of what i said? with calling for equality?  you can play with words now the way you like! but its obvsious that this isnt what you meant, and if your real answer was this innocent and clear and simple, there wouldnt be a need to guess i will have other meanings to load it with, no?</p>
<p>i guess your point is well taken and understood.</p>
<p>why do i use my last name? why dont you?:)<br />
of course to distinguish me from other khalids, i am khalid jarrar just like he is naseem il 6awarna and she is roba il assi, where is the big mystery in that? <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>and of course i am proud of it too, Jarrar happens to be a family with significat patriot history, full of names that are famous for fighting the israeli occupation by all means, since early 40s and till now. I am proud of it just like anyone has the right to be proud of their small or extended family.</p>
<p>But it doesnt define me, i know more of 6arawna and `6moor, 7amayda and 7alal7ma than i know of the jarrars probably, because although i am proud of my family name, its only a small part of me, and it doesnt define me, i like to believe that there are enough skills and acievements in my life to define me, much more important to me than my last name, that i did no great acheivement to get it, just like everyone else in the world, other than getting born.</p>
<p>I am for using last names in social life, it helps getting families together etc. but in the eyes of laws, we all should be equal, that in my eyes is justice, and justice and equality is for the best interest of Jordan.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90706</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90706</guid>
		<description>My priority is something called jordan's interests, as simple as that, you can load this with as much meanings as you want-unleash your wild imagination.

Clear? Or do you need any more explanation, if so then I would suggest that others jump to help you understand what I mean.

So whats up with you using your last name? is it one of the "choices" I gave you in the question before?

Peace out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My priority is something called jordan&#8217;s interests, as simple as that, you can load this with as much meanings as you want-unleash your wild imagination.</p>
<p>Clear? Or do you need any more explanation, if so then I would suggest that others jump to help you understand what I mean.</p>
<p>So whats up with you using your last name? is it one of the &#8220;choices&#8221; I gave you in the question before?</p>
<p>Peace out.</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90704</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90704</guid>
		<description>priorities?


i happen to believe in this crazy concept of equality, you know? the concept where everyone is equal in the eyes of law? setting that is my priority, and that is my agenda! whats yours pleasE? you responded to my question with two comments and lots of questions but not an answer: what are the priorities you talked about when you said:

"I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I meanâ€¦ "

i would like a straight answer, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>priorities?</p>
<p>i happen to believe in this crazy concept of equality, you know? the concept where everyone is equal in the eyes of law? setting that is my priority, and that is my agenda! whats yours pleasE? you responded to my question with two comments and lots of questions but not an answer: what are the priorities you talked about when you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I meanâ€¦ &#8221;</p>
<p>i would like a straight answer, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90699</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90699</guid>
		<description>There are many interesting comments so far and I'm enjoying that various viewpoints even though I disagree with a lot of them

HOWEVER: is it possible to continue this debate without resorting to any name calling or even insulting anyone?

I think it is.

So lets give it a try.

&lt;b&gt;Bilal:&lt;/b&gt; thanks for the kind words!

&lt;b&gt;Rola:&lt;/b&gt; I understand your frustration, but perhaps reposting your comments here isn't really going to help you get your message across the way you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many interesting comments so far and I&#8217;m enjoying that various viewpoints even though I disagree with a lot of them</p>
<p>HOWEVER: is it possible to continue this debate without resorting to any name calling or even insulting anyone?</p>
<p>I think it is.</p>
<p>So lets give it a try.</p>
<p><b>Bilal:</b> thanks for the kind words!</p>
<p><b>Rola:</b> I understand your frustration, but perhaps reposting your comments here isn&#8217;t really going to help you get your message across the way you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90696</guid>
		<description>Oh, you know what the irony is?
You use your family name, what do you think about that? You want to show us your proliferation? Or is it just a "mistake"? Or are you just proud of it?Or maybe to distiguish yourself from the other khalids by building a profile? Online life is interesting and that's why I am studying psychology now:)

Explain Khalid Jarrar:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you know what the irony is?<br />
You use your family name, what do you think about that? You want to show us your proliferation? Or is it just a &#8220;mistake&#8221;? Or are you just proud of it?Or maybe to distiguish yourself from the other khalids by building a profile? Online life is interesting and that&#8217;s why I am studying psychology now:)</p>
<p>Explain Khalid Jarrar:)</p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90693</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90693</guid>
		<description>How do you define a neo con MR jarrar? I am also eager to hear what you have to say..

Let me hear what "your" priorities are and let us all see if they fit with the jordanian agenda(If there is one). Many agendas we have here in jordan, o kol wa7ad be3'anni 3la mowallo.

Salamz Mr I-know-everything-and-I-have-something-to-say-whatever-the-subject-is-because-I-know-it-all-etc..

Salamz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you define a neo con MR jarrar? I am also eager to hear what you have to say..</p>
<p>Let me hear what &#8220;your&#8221; priorities are and let us all see if they fit with the jordanian agenda(If there is one). Many agendas we have here in jordan, o kol wa7ad be3&#8242;anni 3la mowallo.</p>
<p>Salamz Mr I-know-everything-and-I-have-something-to-say-whatever-the-subject-is-because-I-know-it-all-etc..</p>
<p>Salamz.</p>
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		<title>By: khalid jarrar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90682</link>
		<dc:creator>khalid jarrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90682</guid>
		<description>Jarrar,
I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I meanâ€¦ 


no actually mr neo con muhanned, would you pleas explain i am eager to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarrar,<br />
I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I meanâ€¦ </p>
<p>no actually mr neo con muhanned, would you pleas explain i am eager to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pheras Hilal</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90680</link>
		<dc:creator>Pheras Hilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90680</guid>
		<description>Batir:"Another reflection about the myth of high-education and awareness in urban areas vis-a-vis low awareness in rural areas based on the Zabi bani Irshaid rhetoric echoed here by Pheras."

Batir, you're stuffing words in my mouth. I never associated the lack of education or awareness with low income levels. However, you made a blanket statement when you said that Jordanians of Palestinian origin especially in districts like the 1st and 2nd districts end up voting for members of the IAF. Again, I didn't say that this story is in fact a "web of organized crime" as you alluded to, again, that's how rumors are being fabricated. I offered a story, that a friend told me about their mother. Believe it or not, it happened. I just find it frustrating when people get hung up on specifics and miss the bigger picture.

If intelligence units and police forces are so essential for the prosperity of any economy, then explain the fall of ex-USSR? Had the  USSR gave more space and freedom for people to talk and criticize their governments in a CONSTRUCTIVE fashion, a lot of things would've been different. But that government opted to terrorize its own people with an over-abundance of intelligence units. You want more examples? Look up north (Syria).

Again, I am calling for equal opportunities. That should be a birthright, and not a perk.

Batir, I appreciate your comment, but what I would appreciate more, is for you to read my comments a bit more thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batir:&#8221;Another reflection about the myth of high-education and awareness in urban areas vis-a-vis low awareness in rural areas based on the Zabi bani Irshaid rhetoric echoed here by Pheras.&#8221;</p>
<p>Batir, you&#8217;re stuffing words in my mouth. I never associated the lack of education or awareness with low income levels. However, you made a blanket statement when you said that Jordanians of Palestinian origin especially in districts like the 1st and 2nd districts end up voting for members of the IAF. Again, I didn&#8217;t say that this story is in fact a &#8220;web of organized crime&#8221; as you alluded to, again, that&#8217;s how rumors are being fabricated. I offered a story, that a friend told me about their mother. Believe it or not, it happened. I just find it frustrating when people get hung up on specifics and miss the bigger picture.</p>
<p>If intelligence units and police forces are so essential for the prosperity of any economy, then explain the fall of ex-USSR? Had the  USSR gave more space and freedom for people to talk and criticize their governments in a CONSTRUCTIVE fashion, a lot of things would&#8217;ve been different. But that government opted to terrorize its own people with an over-abundance of intelligence units. You want more examples? Look up north (Syria).</p>
<p>Again, I am calling for equal opportunities. That should be a birthright, and not a perk.</p>
<p>Batir, I appreciate your comment, but what I would appreciate more, is for you to read my comments a bit more thoroughly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rola J</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90678</link>
		<dc:creator>Rola J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90678</guid>
		<description>How nice we Arabs are. Here is this case of blogger Kinzi. She receives an anonymous hate post from a moron claiming to be a Muslim. Fact is, it could have been from anyone. All evidence from the hate message leads to an intra-Christian hate. What does she do? She does what any person would do. Bring it to our attention. And what do fellow bloggers do? They come to the rescue. So far so good. Until she starts to engage in condescending Bushisms weaved within subtly unpleasant anti-Muslim diatribes.  Now I am glad fellow bloggers came to her support, even though US media and blogs are full of hateful racist violent ant-arab and anti-muslim remarks that rarely get challenged. 

So what does Kinzi do when I raise this issue, she deletes my post. She is free to do so, but I am free to repost. 

http://kinziblogs.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/some-love-comments/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How nice we Arabs are. Here is this case of blogger Kinzi. She receives an anonymous hate post from a moron claiming to be a Muslim. Fact is, it could have been from anyone. All evidence from the hate message leads to an intra-Christian hate. What does she do? She does what any person would do. Bring it to our attention. And what do fellow bloggers do? They come to the rescue. So far so good. Until she starts to engage in condescending Bushisms weaved within subtly unpleasant anti-Muslim diatribes.  Now I am glad fellow bloggers came to her support, even though US media and blogs are full of hateful racist violent ant-arab and anti-muslim remarks that rarely get challenged. </p>
<p>So what does Kinzi do when I raise this issue, she deletes my post. She is free to do so, but I am free to repost. </p>
<p><a href="http://kinziblogs.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/some-love-comments/" rel="nofollow">http://kinziblogs.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/some-love-comments/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90675</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90675</guid>
		<description>Jarrar,
I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I mean...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarrar,<br />
I am with eliminating the last name from the ID, but I am also with setting priorities if you know what I mean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bilal</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90674</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90674</guid>
		<description>Nas..

I salute you for being a great writer

I salute you for being a true Jordanian citizen

I salute you for trying to push reform in Jordan through digital outlets.

I salute you for making the black-iris my only gate to whats happening in my dear Jordan while am far away from it. 

I salute you for being outspoken and courageous. 

I wake up, I make coffee and check your blog. I come back from work, I check your blog, before I go to my college, I check your blog. I am addicted. Soon I will be coming back to Amman after years studying in the US. 

my brothers like pheras and others on here are totally right. and I would like to add something maybe you guys are not aware of. most of the problems in Jordan stem from our constitution. where are the amendments? where is our bill of rights that protects the Jordanian citizens from the tyranny of their government? why do we not respect our constitution like all these 'civilized' people do? 

maybe i am more exposed to the 'constitution issue' than most of Jordanians are because I live in the US, and I witness first hand how  Americans -no matter how different they are- they all take pride in their constitution and respect it. In the UK they do not even have a constitution, but everybody including the queen herself respects whats known as the 'common law'.

where is our bill of rights that SHOULD be learnt by every Jordanian? some of our government officials are corrupt because either they do do not follow the constitution or simply are protected by it. when was our last constitutional amendment in an ever changing social and political system in Jordan? 

I do fully respect our Jordanian constitution because its our own legal document that should -supposedly- protect us from the tyranny of our own government. but some parts of it are out-dated. why do we STILL go by some laws that were vested early 1920s and represented by people far from what the people of Jordan are today?

the constitution of the most powerful country in the world, the USA, has been amended more than 25 times.

people should never be afraid of GID, or corrupt government officials, because our constitution should protect us. do we even have the right to challenge the GID in courts? 

ask any of our tawjehee students about our constitution, and thier faces become blank. thats our setback, thats our shame. do we even learn our constitution in our schools?

its saddening to read a comment above from a brother, who brings in the issue of 'the vote of Jordanians of Palestinian origin' into this article! every body points a finger at everybody else. I bet this brother is like some of our government officials: they laugh at our ignorance of our own constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nas..</p>
<p>I salute you for being a great writer</p>
<p>I salute you for being a true Jordanian citizen</p>
<p>I salute you for trying to push reform in Jordan through digital outlets.</p>
<p>I salute you for making the black-iris my only gate to whats happening in my dear Jordan while am far away from it. </p>
<p>I salute you for being outspoken and courageous. </p>
<p>I wake up, I make coffee and check your blog. I come back from work, I check your blog, before I go to my college, I check your blog. I am addicted. Soon I will be coming back to Amman after years studying in the US. </p>
<p>my brothers like pheras and others on here are totally right. and I would like to add something maybe you guys are not aware of. most of the problems in Jordan stem from our constitution. where are the amendments? where is our bill of rights that protects the Jordanian citizens from the tyranny of their government? why do we not respect our constitution like all these &#8216;civilized&#8217; people do? </p>
<p>maybe i am more exposed to the &#8216;constitution issue&#8217; than most of Jordanians are because I live in the US, and I witness first hand how  Americans -no matter how different they are- they all take pride in their constitution and respect it. In the UK they do not even have a constitution, but everybody including the queen herself respects whats known as the &#8216;common law&#8217;.</p>
<p>where is our bill of rights that SHOULD be learnt by every Jordanian? some of our government officials are corrupt because either they do do not follow the constitution or simply are protected by it. when was our last constitutional amendment in an ever changing social and political system in Jordan? </p>
<p>I do fully respect our Jordanian constitution because its our own legal document that should -supposedly- protect us from the tyranny of our own government. but some parts of it are out-dated. why do we STILL go by some laws that were vested early 1920s and represented by people far from what the people of Jordan are today?</p>
<p>the constitution of the most powerful country in the world, the USA, has been amended more than 25 times.</p>
<p>people should never be afraid of GID, or corrupt government officials, because our constitution should protect us. do we even have the right to challenge the GID in courts? </p>
<p>ask any of our tawjehee students about our constitution, and thier faces become blank. thats our setback, thats our shame. do we even learn our constitution in our schools?</p>
<p>its saddening to read a comment above from a brother, who brings in the issue of &#8216;the vote of Jordanians of Palestinian origin&#8217; into this article! every body points a finger at everybody else. I bet this brother is like some of our government officials: they laugh at our ignorance of our own constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Sami</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90671</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr. batir, mr qadi , the corruption you are alluding to where officials ask for a gift is far insignificant when compared to the legalized and institutionalized corruption plaguing Jordan where the powers that be hand out money, jobs, projects, scholarships and perks to loyalists and make it legal to do so. that's what's killing jordan. not the 1 JD kick back you pay to speed up your car registration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr. batir, mr qadi , the corruption you are alluding to where officials ask for a gift is far insignificant when compared to the legalized and institutionalized corruption plaguing Jordan where the powers that be hand out money, jobs, projects, scholarships and perks to loyalists and make it legal to do so. that&#8217;s what&#8217;s killing jordan. not the 1 JD kick back you pay to speed up your car registration.</p>
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		<title>By: Qadi</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90662</link>
		<dc:creator>Qadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batir, you dont decide whose a good candidate and who is not based on you ideological preferences. but my analysis is that people in many countries engage in what's called a protest vote. and that's when you are so pissed off at the status quo you chose someone simply because he is anti establishments. sort of like what happened in Gaza. 

second, when voters know that their votes don't count and they will be canceled out by the cruel joke called Jordanian parliament  and their political underrepresentation, they will try to sabotage the machine. this is passive aggressive behavior. 

but lets look at the other side of the story. we have a "parliament" that was elected based on the sham system of representation. where is Jordan today? have you checked the corruption index? failed state index? unemployment figures? inflation? erosion of public schools? suppression of media? is this what you propose we keep in place? is this your defence against ending the dysfunctional status quo? or do you propose we implement a system that punishes populations for electing opposition candidates by removing their voting rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batir, you dont decide whose a good candidate and who is not based on you ideological preferences. but my analysis is that people in many countries engage in what&#8217;s called a protest vote. and that&#8217;s when you are so pissed off at the status quo you chose someone simply because he is anti establishments. sort of like what happened in Gaza. </p>
<p>second, when voters know that their votes don&#8217;t count and they will be canceled out by the cruel joke called Jordanian parliament  and their political underrepresentation, they will try to sabotage the machine. this is passive aggressive behavior. </p>
<p>but lets look at the other side of the story. we have a &#8220;parliament&#8221; that was elected based on the sham system of representation. where is Jordan today? have you checked the corruption index? failed state index? unemployment figures? inflation? erosion of public schools? suppression of media? is this what you propose we keep in place? is this your defence against ending the dysfunctional status quo? or do you propose we implement a system that punishes populations for electing opposition candidates by removing their voting rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Batir Wardam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batir Wardam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jawad, in what sense are we competing with camerron and Zimbabwe? give me figures plz, from UN, World bank, or any other credible and unbiased source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jawad, in what sense are we competing with camerron and Zimbabwe? give me figures plz, from UN, World bank, or any other credible and unbiased source?</p>
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		<title>By: Qadi</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2007/09/30/the-sound-of-one-hand-clapping/#comment-90660</link>
		<dc:creator>Qadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i sort of agree with Batir. better to feed the monster than to have it feed on us. we have rampant corruption as it is in jordan. amazing how we still manage to do many official transactions related to state security and not one official ever asked for money. my experience at least. in morocco and Egypt it's fighting the level of open corruption. i have almost missed flights in egypt because i did not tip and my passport was held until the last moment. of course you can still speed your paperwork with a few gifts here and there in jordan, but rarely will your paperwork be stuck because you did not tip. but i am not sure this will continue to be the norm if the this rate of decline continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i sort of agree with Batir. better to feed the monster than to have it feed on us. we have rampant corruption as it is in jordan. amazing how we still manage to do many official transactions related to state security and not one official ever asked for money. my experience at least. in morocco and Egypt it&#8217;s fighting the level of open corruption. i have almost missed flights in egypt because i did not tip and my passport was held until the last moment. of course you can still speed your paperwork with a few gifts here and there in jordan, but rarely will your paperwork be stuck because you did not tip. but i am not sure this will continue to be the norm if the this rate of decline continues.</p>
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