Comments on: Jordanian Eid Il-Fitr Etiquette http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/ A Jordanian Blog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:54:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-94043 Nas Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:34:50 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-94043 Um Omar: thanks for the comment. the common ones I see are typically two pieces of rope tied to 2 pieces of worn down lumber, hanging from a bar. Sometimes, instead of the lumber, they'll use a wheel, and sometimes its just one piece of rope in a u-shape with the pepsi carton wrapped around the bottom for a seat. there is a need for more public parks in jordan but in some areas the locals would most likely take down the equipment and sell it. as a mother, this might interest you as well: http://jordantimes.com/?news=2917 Um Omar: thanks for the comment. the common ones I see are typically two pieces of rope tied to 2 pieces of worn down lumber, hanging from a bar. Sometimes, instead of the lumber, they’ll use a wheel, and sometimes its just one piece of rope in a u-shape with the pepsi carton wrapped around the bottom for a seat.

there is a need for more public parks in jordan but in some areas the locals would most likely take down the equipment and sell it.

as a mother, this might interest you as well:
http://jordantimes.com/?news=2917

]]> By: Um Omar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-94042 Um Omar Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:27:54 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-94042 Yes, indeed! I live in the wrong part of town apparently! Although the ones in Syria were not so technologically advanced as you stated. I liked the broken down piece laying on the side in your picture. Or is that the 'replacement' car? Speaking of safety, my daughter's school had a big Eid party with a bouncer slide, the kinds that blow up with hot air. It apparently deflated and many children were injured including one girl who was stuck under the many folds of plastic before she was rescued. May Allah protect our children. (And thanks for responding to the comment.) Eid Mubarak. Yes, indeed! I live in the wrong part of town apparently! Although the ones in Syria were not so technologically advanced as you stated. I liked the broken down piece laying on the side in your picture. Or is that the ‘replacement’ car? Speaking of safety, my daughter’s school had a big Eid party with a bouncer slide, the kinds that blow up with hot air. It apparently deflated and many children were injured including one girl who was stuck under the many folds of plastic before she was rescued. May Allah protect our children. (And thanks for responding to the comment.) Eid Mubarak.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93602 Nas Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:40:56 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93602 Um Omar: you mean these: http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v141/155/89/682485144/n682485144_1317425_8379.jpg that one is actually pretty technologically advanced compared to ones I've seen around town recently, especially in wa7dat. Um Omar: you mean these:

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v141/155/89/682485144/n682485144_1317425_8379.jpg

that one is actually pretty technologically advanced compared to ones I’ve seen around town recently, especially in wa7dat.

]]> By: Um Omar http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93601 Um Omar Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:33:07 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93601 I just returned from the same scene in Syria. I would just like to add that atleast Jordan (as far as I have seen) does not have these rickety swing sets that get set up in every neighborhood and entire families ride them for a fee. Imagine mouse traps perched on a steep hill, swinging to and fro with one end or the other coming up in the process. Ahhh! Give me Eid in the US of A anyday. Chuck-E-Cheese is atleast a bit more safety conscious. I just returned from the same scene in Syria. I would just like to add that atleast Jordan (as far as I have seen) does not have these rickety swing sets that get set up in every neighborhood and entire families ride them for a fee. Imagine mouse traps perched on a steep hill, swinging to and fro with one end or the other coming up in the process. Ahhh! Give me Eid in the US of A anyday. Chuck-E-Cheese is atleast a bit more safety conscious.

]]> By: Hani Obaid http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93562 Hani Obaid Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:35:56 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93562 Sana, that's the point. A mall is for shopping by definition, why do I have to prove anything ? He's assuming I'm there to leer. This presumption is insulting to Jordanian society in general, and honestly I think the guard wanted a bribe. I won't make the same mistake again, and will be going to a different mall. Worst yet, before the incident above took place my brother and I had to go around for 30 minutes until we found parking. Even Mecca mall's cinema isn't that great compared to the one at Zara center. Sana, that’s the point. A mall is for shopping by definition, why do I have to prove anything ? He’s assuming I’m there to leer. This presumption is insulting to Jordanian society in general, and honestly I think the guard wanted a bribe.

I won’t make the same mistake again, and will be going to a different mall. Worst yet, before the incident above took place my brother and I had to go around for 30 minutes until we found parking. Even Mecca mall’s cinema isn’t that great compared to the one at Zara center.

]]> By: Sana http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93560 Sana Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:13 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93560 Bilal, maybe it would be better if you do silat el ra7em and try to visit your relatives throughout the year instead of visiting 100 people in one day out of obligation!!!! Hani, I totally understant your frustration and it is very uncivilised what happened to you but on the other hand, how is the guard to know if you were genuinly going in to shop as opposed to leering at girls and making inapporiate (and often very low) comments? i used to hate going to malls in jordan because guys (and girls) i must say hang around to meet the opposite sex and this means that every girl is bound to be hit on by a guy.... Nas and Moey, Eid sounds like nightmare in Jordan but I have spent my last 5 eids away from home with no family to celebrate it with and being in amman, despite the leering, the visitations and everything else u mentioned sounds like bliss to me!!! :) Bilal, maybe it would be better if you do silat el ra7em and try to visit your relatives throughout the year instead of visiting 100 people in one day out of obligation!!!!
Hani, I totally understant your frustration and it is very uncivilised what happened to you but on the other hand, how is the guard to know if you were genuinly going in to shop as opposed to leering at girls and making inapporiate (and often very low) comments? i used to hate going to malls in jordan because guys (and girls) i must say hang around to meet the opposite sex and this means that every girl is bound to be hit on by a guy….
Nas and Moey, Eid sounds like nightmare in Jordan but I have spent my last 5 eids away from home with no family to celebrate it with and being in amman, despite the leering, the visitations and everything else u mentioned sounds like bliss to me!!! :)

]]> By: Moey http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93405 Moey Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:59:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93405 I hate the jordanian eid vibe I hate the jordanian eid vibe

]]> By: Hani Obaid http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93370 Hani Obaid Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:12:15 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93370 "Yesterday, as I drove around the city for a bit, I noticed that there was an increase in leering. Usually I feel it decreases during Ramadan because naturally people are hypocritical, but it seems men feel like they have a free pass to leer at girls walking by". The probem is that these "horny leerers" are ruining it for the rest of us decent people. This evening I took my brother (who is visiting from the US for EID) to Mecca mall. After entering the mall gate, a guard behind us yelled at us in Arabic "Where do you think you're going?". He asked us to come back. He asked what we do for a living, why we are coming to the mall. My brother explained that he is an engineer visiting here from the US (I was quiet since I was totally ashamed of Mecca Mall and of it being part of my country). The guard then asked my brother for his business card. My brother told him he 's here on vacation so he's not carrying his business cards with him. the guard then wanted to know why we came to the mall. At this point my brother started getting upset (rightfuly so as this was very uncivilised). He explained that he is here to buy a mobile phone and to pickup my sister's phone which was being repaired at a store inside. The moron guard asked us to call the mobile store shop owner, and have him come to the mall gate, or he want let us in (Ihki ma3ah talafon, wu Gulu Yiji lal bab 3ashan a3abirkom). At this point my brother was about to lose it. I've heard about Mecca mall preventing men from entering before, but somehow I always went there without encountering this issue, it seems they expect all Jordanian young men to be pigs guilty with no chance of being proven innocent unless escorted by a woman. Do they expect me to go hire a hooker to escort me inside the mall so that i can shop for a t-shirt ? Next time I'm going to City Mall. They don't treat their customer like convicts. “Yesterday, as I drove around the city for a bit, I noticed that there was an increase in leering. Usually I feel it decreases during Ramadan because naturally people are hypocritical, but it seems men feel like they have a free pass to leer at girls walking by”.

The probem is that these “horny leerers” are ruining it for the rest of us decent people.

This evening I took my brother (who is visiting from the US for EID) to Mecca mall. After entering the mall gate, a guard behind us yelled at us in Arabic “Where do you think you’re going?”. He asked us to come back. He asked what we do for a living, why we are coming to the mall. My brother explained that he is an engineer visiting here from the US (I was quiet since I was totally ashamed of Mecca Mall and of it being part of my country). The guard then asked my brother for his business card. My brother told him he ’s here on vacation so he’s not carrying his business cards with him. the guard then wanted to know why we came to the mall. At this point my brother started getting upset (rightfuly so as this was very uncivilised). He explained that he is here to buy a mobile phone and to pickup my sister’s phone which was being repaired at a store inside. The moron guard asked us to call the mobile store shop owner, and have him come to the mall gate, or he want let us in (Ihki ma3ah talafon, wu Gulu Yiji lal bab 3ashan a3abirkom). At this point my brother was about to lose it. I’ve heard about Mecca mall preventing men from entering before, but somehow I always went there without encountering this issue, it seems they expect all Jordanian young men to be pigs guilty with no chance of being proven innocent unless escorted by a woman. Do they expect me to go hire a hooker to escort me inside the mall so that i can shop for a t-shirt ?

Next time I’m going to City Mall. They don’t treat their customer like convicts.

]]> By: Bilal - Black Jack :) http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93348 Bilal - Black Jack :) Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:06:46 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93348 you are right. the visitation in eid becomes a chore. but how else can we keep the family ties and friendship and check on our relatives (selat al ra7m), which is the main purpose of the eid and its visitation ritual? would a phone call suffice? a card sent to their 'p.o. box'? we were just talking about it in your other blog -internet friendship protocol- would an email to your aunt or uncle on this holiday do the purpose? maybe SMS? I love the visitation thingy in el eid. i think thats where the soul of the eid lies. but i wish it involved less travelling, house hopping and the like. it consumes the whole day. Plus, people love these visits especially that they get to use the 'other' guest living room, of which their own kids and house members are barred to use or enter the rest of the year :D abu mahjoob's above caricatures are hilarious as usual. especially the third/last one. lol :D you are right. the visitation in eid becomes a chore.

but how else can we keep the family ties and friendship and check on our relatives (selat al ra7m), which is the main purpose of the eid and its visitation ritual? would a phone call suffice? a card sent to their ‘p.o. box’? we were just talking about it in your other blog -internet friendship protocol- would an email to your aunt or uncle on this holiday do the purpose? maybe SMS?

I love the visitation thingy in el eid. i think thats where the soul of the eid lies. but i wish it involved less travelling, house hopping and the like. it consumes the whole day.

Plus, people love these visits especially that they get to use the ‘other’ guest living room, of which their own kids and house members are barred to use or enter the rest of the year :D

abu mahjoob’s above caricatures are hilarious as usual. especially the third/last one. lol :D

]]> By: Batir Wardam http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93294 Batir Wardam Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:39:48 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2007/10/13/jordanian-eid-il-fitr-etiquette/#comment-93294 I quote " get the celebrating but the anticipating period is weird because it feels like people really want Ramadan to be over". You are completely right, they do, but will not confess. I quote ” get the celebrating but the anticipating period is weird because it feels like people really want Ramadan to be over”. You are completely right, they do, but will not confess.

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