Comments on: AmmanNet Adds A Dash Of Salt To Injury http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/ A Jordanian Blog Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:06:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Jordan's Free Voices http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113237 Jordan's Free Voices Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:38:50 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113237 <strong>The slow demise of press freedom in Jordan...</strong> I lost hope in freedom of the press in Jordan a long time ago. I can't remember exactly when but I think... The slow demise of press freedom in Jordan…

I lost hope in freedom of the press in Jordan a long time ago. I can’t remember exactly when but I think…

]]> By: Qwaider Planet http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113209 Qwaider Planet Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:10:46 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113209 <strong>The slow demise of freedom of the press in Jordan...</strong> I lost hope in the freedom of the press in Jordan long time ago. I can’t remember when exactly but I... The slow demise of freedom of the press in Jordan…

I lost hope in the freedom of the press in Jordan long time ago. I can’t remember when exactly but I…

]]> By: Qwaider Planet http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113191 Qwaider Planet Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:02:46 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113191 <strong>Journalists Sentenced to Jail...</strong> A number of journalists have been sentenced to three months in prison for charges related to “insulting... Journalists Sentenced to Jail…

A number of journalists have been sentenced to three months in prison for charges related to “insulting…

]]> By: Jordan's Free Voices http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113189 Jordan's Free Voices Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:53:30 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-113189 <strong>Journalists Sentenced to Jail...</strong> A number of journalists have been sentenced to three months in prison for charges related to “insulting... Journalists Sentenced to Jail…

A number of journalists have been sentenced to three months in prison for charges related to “insulting…

]]> By: openDemocracy http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112958 openDemocracy Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:49:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112958 <strong>Jordan: directing democracy...</strong> The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is far from being a democratic state in the western sense, but the condition of political liberty in the country in recent decades compares favourably to that of its Arab neighbours Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Even a ... Jordan: directing democracy…

The
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is far from being a democratic state in
the western sense, but the condition of political liberty in the
country in recent decades compares favourably to that of its Arab
neighbours Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Even a …

]]> By: alurdunialhurr http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112867 alurdunialhurr Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:12:33 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112867 I have no idea why the Al Balad Radio station needs to apologize to those morons just don't see their case as legitimate ands valid I guess the only way they( fake Parliament and government} can silence people up is to throw a law suit against them, it is scared tactics to eliminate dissent ,pure and simple... I have no idea why the Al Balad Radio station needs to apologize to those morons just don’t see their case as legitimate ands valid I guess the only way they( fake Parliament and government} can silence people up is to throw a law suit against them, it is scared tactics to eliminate dissent ,pure and simple…

]]> By: ArabianMonkey http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112856 ArabianMonkey Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:11:27 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112856 Ah, the business of fear permeates and there's a stench in the air.... Ah, the business of fear permeates and there’s a stench in the air….

]]> By: Musa http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112849 Musa Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:16:08 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112849 Mr Kuttab, I would also like to thank you for your reply. My comment was not exactly referring to the Amman Net case since I have no problem with the station setting and following guidelines, especially guidelines against slander and useless name-calling. I tried to express the disappointment caused by your guest column at the Princeton school paper, since it was filled with undeserved praise, and offered a a much brighter (not to say completely fake) image of the media in Jordan, especially that it came from a supposedly credible source who works in the field. Mr Kuttab,
I would also like to thank you for your reply.
My comment was not exactly referring to the Amman Net case since I have no problem with the station setting and following guidelines, especially guidelines against slander and useless name-calling.

I tried to express the disappointment caused by your guest column at the Princeton school paper, since it was filled with undeserved praise, and offered a a much brighter (not to say completely fake) image of the media in Jordan, especially that it came from a supposedly credible source who works in the field.

]]> By: Daoud Kuttab http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112842 Daoud Kuttab Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:06:19 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112842 dear Musa (is that your name or a nick name?) You said: So Mr Professionalism Kuttab, now that you have justified the lawsuit against your station, how do you justify the rejection for the license to broadcast outside of Amman, and how do you justify that 3 years after the king promised you there will be alternative media outlets there is no independent TV stations and that the prime minister gave orders not cooperate with journalists, and what about the parliaments considering banning all journalists from their sessions ….. I guess as long as you have your successful project, it is all nice and dandy" I am not sure what is unprofessional. We created guidliens for our web site and we mistakenly violated them by allowing this remark and so we did the honorable thing and apologized. I don't know where you find me justifying the law suit. We are the victims of the law suit. We have a license according to the rules and if I act in a way that is against my own policies I have a responisbility to my board to correct it and to show that this was not done with intent from us. We are not against the peole or the listeners but our own radio announcer read that and she should have been careful. dear Musa (is that your name or a nick name?) You said:
So Mr Professionalism Kuttab, now that you have justified the lawsuit against your station, how do you justify the rejection for the license to broadcast outside of Amman, and how do you justify that 3 years after the king promised you there will be alternative media outlets there is no independent TV stations and that the prime minister gave orders not cooperate with journalists, and what about the parliaments considering banning all journalists from their sessions …..

I guess as long as you have your successful project, it is all nice and dandy”

I am not sure what is unprofessional. We created guidliens for our web site and we mistakenly violated them by allowing this remark and so we did the honorable thing and apologized.

I don’t know where you find me justifying the law suit. We are the victims of the law suit. We have a license according to the rules and if I act in a way that is against my own policies I have a responisbility to my board to correct it and to show that this was not done with intent from us. We are not against the peole or the listeners but our own radio announcer read that and she should have been careful.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112839 Nas Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:11:25 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112839 <b>Mr. Daoud Kuttab:</b> thank you sir for the clarifications we might otherwise not be privy to as outsiders who just read what we see. However, my problem is not with AmmanNet but with the reaction by both the elected representatives and the AVC. Regardless of your organization's policy, what happened remains a testament to the fact that we live in an absurdly undemocratic country where people are not allowed to voice their opinion of even their own "elected" representatives, and are punished for doing so. That is what is sad and unfortunate about all this. Thanks again for your comment. Mr. Daoud Kuttab: thank you sir for the clarifications we might otherwise not be privy to as outsiders who just read what we see. However, my problem is not with AmmanNet but with the reaction by both the elected representatives and the AVC. Regardless of your organization’s policy, what happened remains a testament to the fact that we live in an absurdly undemocratic country where people are not allowed to voice their opinion of even their own “elected” representatives, and are punished for doing so.

That is what is sad and unfortunate about all this.

Thanks again for your comment.

]]> By: fad http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112838 fad Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:27:21 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112838 nas, few words for ya...newspeak and doublethink. by the way, 1) i checked the date and it really IS 2008 2) next on the agenda are thoughtcrimes nas, few words for ya…newspeak and doublethink. by the way, 1) i checked the date and it really IS 2008 2) next on the agenda are thoughtcrimes

]]> By: Musa http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112837 Musa Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:11:01 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112837 Seriously !! The big problem is مجلس الدواب How insulting !! How sensitive !! Well how about مجلس الحراميه Or maybe The martial laws parliament. Or maybe the Yarmook Massacre parliament Or maybe the no-show parliament So Mr Professionalism Kuttab, now that you have justified the lawsuit against your station, how do you justify the rejection for the license to broadcast outside of Amman, and how do you justify that 3 years after the king promised you there will be alternative media outlets there is no independent TV stations and that the prime minister gave orders not cooperate with journalists, and what about the parliaments considering banning all journalists from their sessions ..... I guess as long as you have your successful project, it is all nice and dandy Seriously !! The big problem is
مجلس الدواب
How insulting !! How sensitive !!
Well how about
مجلس الحراميه

Or maybe The martial laws parliament.
Or maybe the Yarmook Massacre parliament
Or maybe the no-show parliament

So Mr Professionalism Kuttab, now that you have justified the lawsuit against your station, how do you justify the rejection for the license to broadcast outside of Amman, and how do you justify that 3 years after the king promised you there will be alternative media outlets there is no independent TV stations and that the prime minister gave orders not cooperate with journalists, and what about the parliaments considering banning all journalists from their sessions …..

I guess as long as you have your successful project, it is all nice and dandy

]]> By: Daoud Kuttab http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112822 Daoud Kuttab Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:50:41 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112822 Thanks to all for your interest. The comment which caused the problem insulted the lower house of a problem by changing the third letter in the arabic word for representatives with the letter d . The reason we apologized is that this is contrary to our own declared policy which is not to allow personal insults. What our restructuring was to put the reading of the comments on our morning program which is hosted by an experienced journalists who would be careful about such comments. Rest assured this was not censorship on thought or opinions which we will never do. Thanks to all for your interest. The comment which caused the problem insulted the lower house of a problem by changing the third letter in the arabic word for representatives with the letter d . The reason we apologized is that this is contrary to our own declared policy which is not to allow personal insults. What our restructuring was to put the reading of the comments on our morning program which is hosted by an experienced journalists who would be careful about such comments. Rest assured this was not censorship on thought or opinions which we will never do.

]]> By: mo http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112817 mo Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:34:40 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112817 btw the comment deena is referring to has been deleted ... btw the comment deena is referring to has been deleted …

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112814 Nas Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:05:26 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112814 <b>Batir:</b> thanks for highlighting the story in the dailies, I'll make sure to give it a read tonight. <b>Deena:</b> thanks for the search. hmm, could that be it? that one may be deemed offensive to more than just our MP's :-D Batir: thanks for highlighting the story in the dailies, I’ll make sure to give it a read tonight.

Deena: thanks for the search. hmm, could that be it? that one may be deemed offensive to more than just our MP’s :-D

]]> By: mo http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112813 mo Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:48:57 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112813 of course they are going to apologize ... bil surmayeh b3eed 3annak wil sam3een ... of course they are going to apologize …

bil surmayeh b3eed 3annak wil sam3een …

]]> By: Deena http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112812 Deena Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:25:22 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112812 I already searched their archives for the comment! And although there were several articles published on 29/1 … I am thinking it is most likely the third comment in this article: http://www.ammannet.net/look/article.tpl?IdPublication=3&NrIssue=5&NrSection=1&NrArticle=16234&IdLanguage=18 accusing the parliament of… wait for it… corruption and theft! Now that just can’t be true…?!?! I already searched their archives for the comment! And although there were several articles published on 29/1 … I am thinking it is most likely the third comment in this article:
http://www.ammannet.net/look/article.tpl?IdPublication=3&NrIssue=5&NrSection=1&NrArticle=16234&IdLanguage=18

accusing the parliament of… wait for it… corruption and theft! Now that just can’t be true…?!?!

]]> By: Batir Wardam http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112810 Batir Wardam Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:01:04 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/03/09/ammannet-adds-a-dash-of-salt-to-injury/#comment-112810 Maybe you will be interested to read my opinion about this issues is <a href="http://www.addustour.com/ViewTopic.aspx?ac=\OpinionAndNotes\2008\03\OpinionAndNotes_issue152_day09_id32488.htm" rel="nofollow">today's Addustour</a> Maybe you will be interested to read my opinion about this issues is today’s Addustour

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