<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.3.1" -->
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Live At SOFEX In Amman</title>
	<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/</link>
	<description>A Jordanian Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: ar3a</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114594</link>
		<dc:creator>ar3a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114594</guid>
		<description>"What will they acheive if they were forced to face Israel one day for example?"

they will call upon their islamists to win the war. you know the type...the Hamasis, the Hizboullahis, the Jehadis, the guys who itch for such interaction with our peaceful, enlightened Hebrew neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What will they acheive if they were forced to face Israel one day for example?&#8221;</p>
<p>they will call upon their islamists to win the war. you know the type&#8230;the Hamasis, the Hizboullahis, the Jehadis, the guys who itch for such interaction with our peaceful, enlightened Hebrew neighbors.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114095</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114095</guid>
		<description>I dont understand why Nas must be blamed for Sofex, but my question is.....are the Jordanian forces really that good? What will they acheive if they were forced to face Israel one day for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand why Nas must be blamed for Sofex, but my question is&#8230;..are the Jordanian forces really that good? What will they acheive if they were forced to face Israel one day for example?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114070</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114070</guid>
		<description>thanks musa :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks musa <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114045</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114045</guid>
		<description>it must be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it must be!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Musa</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114041</link>
		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114041</guid>
		<description>And Nas, 
Please don’t be so harsh on Blackwater, calling them mercenaries and judging them from the simple black-white perspective that can get us in trouble..

While they may have committed some minor infractions during their mission in Iraq [Jeremy Scahill], we have a strong partnership with them. There are chances that “Jordan has hired Blackwater to train its special forces” [Dana Hedgpeth - The Washington Post November 3rd, 2007]. During an appearance on CNBC’s s Kudlow &#38; Company in August,2007  Cofer Black was passionately encouraging American investment in Jordan: “I mean, look we get something like 6 -700,000 Iraqis that have moved from Iraq into Jordan that require cement, furniture, housing and the like. So it is a an island of growth and potential, certainly in that immediate area. So it looks good." ---If Cofer Black thinks so...it must be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Nas,<br />
Please don’t be so harsh on Blackwater, calling them mercenaries and judging them from the simple black-white perspective that can get us in trouble..</p>
<p>While they may have committed some minor infractions during their mission in Iraq [Jeremy Scahill], we have a strong partnership with them. There are chances that “Jordan has hired Blackwater to train its special forces” [Dana Hedgpeth - The Washington Post November 3rd, 2007]. During an appearance on CNBC’s s Kudlow &amp; Company in August,2007  Cofer Black was passionately encouraging American investment in Jordan: “I mean, look we get something like 6 -700,000 Iraqis that have moved from Iraq into Jordan that require cement, furniture, housing and the like. So it is a an island of growth and potential, certainly in that immediate area. So it looks good.&#8221; &#8212;If Cofer Black thinks so&#8230;it must be good.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Musa</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114031</link>
		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-114031</guid>
		<description>Mo, 
According to the 2008 Exhibitors list Blackwater has TWO booths...
http://www.sofexjordan.com/Exhibitor_list_new.shtm
[.. Astrophysics Inc.  
AXSYS Technologies 	
BAE Systems 	
Bell Helicopter Textron 	
Benchmade Knife Company 
	
Blackhawk Products Group USA
BlackWater 	USA

Bren-Tronics 	USA
Bushmaster Firearms International 	USA
Broadcast Microwave Services 	USA

Scroll a little further and here is DynCorp International – another "technology" private military contractor.

It is also worth noting that Sofex 2006 offered a podium for Cofer Black to give a very informative presentation on how Blackwater is ready to offer up to full-brigade services to resolve small conflicts and insurgency/terrorism all over the world.

“It’s an intriguing, good idea [a for-profit company becoming an army for hire] from a practical standpoint because we’re low-cost and fast,” (Cofer Black) said on March 27 during the Defense News 2006 SOFEX Conference (in Amman). “The issue is, who’s going to let us play on their team? “Blackwater spends a lot of time thinking, ‘How can we contribute to the common good?’ ” [Cofer] said the company would want to make a profit, but the small force would still be cheaper than bringing in joint forces." 

Now that's technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo,<br />
According to the 2008 Exhibitors list Blackwater has TWO booths&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.sofexjordan.com/Exhibitor_list_new.shtm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sofexjordan.com/Exhibitor_list_new.shtm</a><br />
[.. Astrophysics Inc.<br />
AXSYS Technologies<br />
BAE Systems<br />
Bell Helicopter Textron<br />
Benchmade Knife Company </p>
<p>Blackhawk Products Group USA<br />
BlackWater 	USA</p>
<p>Bren-Tronics 	USA<br />
Bushmaster Firearms International 	USA<br />
Broadcast Microwave Services 	USA</p>
<p>Scroll a little further and here is DynCorp International – another &#8220;technology&#8221; private military contractor.</p>
<p>It is also worth noting that Sofex 2006 offered a podium for Cofer Black to give a very informative presentation on how Blackwater is ready to offer up to full-brigade services to resolve small conflicts and insurgency/terrorism all over the world.</p>
<p>“It’s an intriguing, good idea [a for-profit company becoming an army for hire] from a practical standpoint because we’re low-cost and fast,” (Cofer Black) said on March 27 during the Defense News 2006 SOFEX Conference (in Amman). “The issue is, who’s going to let us play on their team? “Blackwater spends a lot of time thinking, ‘How can we contribute to the common good?’ ” [Cofer] said the company would want to make a profit, but the small force would still be cheaper than bringing in joint forces.&#8221; </p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s technology</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113946</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113946</guid>
		<description>mo: no it wasnt for mercenaries, it was for technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mo: no it wasnt for mercenaries, it was for technology.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113940</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113940</guid>
		<description>did blackwater have a booth?

im asking seriously .. thats not meant as a cynical remark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did blackwater have a booth?</p>
<p>im asking seriously .. thats not meant as a cynical remark.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113937</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113937</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Musa:&lt;/b&gt; I don't think its fair to reduce all our problems to being black or white. some are, but for the most part, it's all shades of gray. So one must establish a stance on things case-by-case, position-by-position. if anything, it is this rigid sense of arabian/jordanian absolutism that has gotten us into trouble in the past, and continues to today. 

secondly, a post like this one isn't meant to be a critical analysis of the geo-political situation of the military industry. it's just an event. i have to go to these things because of my "real world" job and my "real life" finds its way into my blog every now and then, so don't take them so seriously because as you can tell, they're not meant to be. in other words, there's no reason for labeling me as a hypocrite. 

all the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Musa:</b> I don&#8217;t think its fair to reduce all our problems to being black or white. some are, but for the most part, it&#8217;s all shades of gray. So one must establish a stance on things case-by-case, position-by-position. if anything, it is this rigid sense of arabian/jordanian absolutism that has gotten us into trouble in the past, and continues to today. </p>
<p>secondly, a post like this one isn&#8217;t meant to be a critical analysis of the geo-political situation of the military industry. it&#8217;s just an event. i have to go to these things because of my &#8220;real world&#8221; job and my &#8220;real life&#8221; finds its way into my blog every now and then, so don&#8217;t take them so seriously because as you can tell, they&#8217;re not meant to be. in other words, there&#8217;s no reason for labeling me as a hypocrite. </p>
<p>all the best</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Musa</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113931</link>
		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113931</guid>
		<description>With all due respect to your case-by-case approach, it must be pointed out that when it comes to Jordan there are major fundamental questions that should govern the evaluation of events, call it an "ideology" or principle stances. 
It is obvious that for the past few years Jordan has been operating within very curious policy lines,from foreign policy to local economics and everything in between.  Maybe the reason  people can't tell if you are  pro-establishment or anti-establishment is that you have failed yet to take such a distinctive stance ...and that is exactly the initial point I was trying to make. 

On a second thought, maybe it is much more comfortable for an opinionated human being to stay afloat between baqaa refugee camp compassionate photo essays and SOFEX reports...it is that kind of "diversity" that thrives.

I really appreciate your reply Nasim. 
Wish you all the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to your case-by-case approach, it must be pointed out that when it comes to Jordan there are major fundamental questions that should govern the evaluation of events, call it an &#8220;ideology&#8221; or principle stances.<br />
It is obvious that for the past few years Jordan has been operating within very curious policy lines,from foreign policy to local economics and everything in between.  Maybe the reason  people can&#8217;t tell if you are  pro-establishment or anti-establishment is that you have failed yet to take such a distinctive stance &#8230;and that is exactly the initial point I was trying to make. </p>
<p>On a second thought, maybe it is much more comfortable for an opinionated human being to stay afloat between baqaa refugee camp compassionate photo essays and SOFEX reports&#8230;it is that kind of &#8220;diversity&#8221; that thrives.</p>
<p>I really appreciate your reply Nasim.<br />
Wish you all the best</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113928</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113928</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Musa:&lt;/b&gt; thank you for you comment. I don't want to defend opinions, perspectives or points of views or criticisms about myself, simply because everyone will have their's and there's nothing I can do to really change it. Over the months I've met people who think I'm too pro-establishment and I've met people who think I'm too anti-establishment. Suffice to say I disagree with your attitude towards me, but that's a no-brainer. 

I'm a human being and I have my own views and opinions and they form the basis of every post on this blog. If i see something i think deserves criticism, i do so. if it doesn't, well i'm not going to do it just to appease you or others. I am however consistent in my views on what I think of certain subjects, and they've remained unchanged thus far. In Jordan, you have to be able to point out the good, the bad and everything in between. otherwise, if its just the bad all the time, this would be a very depressing blog and we would all probably kill ourselves.

also, i skipped the lunch yesterday, but i thought it was a pretty neat idea is all.

thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Musa:</b> thank you for you comment. I don&#8217;t want to defend opinions, perspectives or points of views or criticisms about myself, simply because everyone will have their&#8217;s and there&#8217;s nothing I can do to really change it. Over the months I&#8217;ve met people who think I&#8217;m too pro-establishment and I&#8217;ve met people who think I&#8217;m too anti-establishment. Suffice to say I disagree with your attitude towards me, but that&#8217;s a no-brainer. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a human being and I have my own views and opinions and they form the basis of every post on this blog. If i see something i think deserves criticism, i do so. if it doesn&#8217;t, well i&#8217;m not going to do it just to appease you or others. I am however consistent in my views on what I think of certain subjects, and they&#8217;ve remained unchanged thus far. In Jordan, you have to be able to point out the good, the bad and everything in between. otherwise, if its just the bad all the time, this would be a very depressing blog and we would all probably kill ourselves.</p>
<p>also, i skipped the lunch yesterday, but i thought it was a pretty neat idea is all.</p>
<p>thanks again.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Musa</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113921</link>
		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113921</guid>
		<description>Did you get to rub shoulders with Cofer Black? What about Rob Richer ?

Honestly Naseem, I find it the way you discuss Jordanian issues a little inconsistent - not to say hypocritical.
You are often highlighting local stories with a critical tone – not say in a complaining or dis-satisfactory tone.   –from  social issues, to freedom of speech even up to foreign policy. And on some instances you may even go as far as criticising some royal laws also in an ironic tone...And then all of a sudden you are dancing to Hashmi Hashmi for two weeks, pimping meaningless initiatives and websites while eating magloobeh at exhibitions for war makers and mercenary services!!

I think you are in a position to realise that the palace in Jordan is the most and  the only  influential part in Jordanian policy...on every level... and in my personal opinion a person with a basic understanding of how this country works would either: demand better from the decision makers, join the herds of clappers and dancers or simply say nothing....But to try to give yourself legitimacy through endless criticism with the purpose of masking your conformist nature is just deceiving and dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you get to rub shoulders with Cofer Black? What about Rob Richer ?</p>
<p>Honestly Naseem, I find it the way you discuss Jordanian issues a little inconsistent - not to say hypocritical.<br />
You are often highlighting local stories with a critical tone – not say in a complaining or dis-satisfactory tone.   –from  social issues, to freedom of speech even up to foreign policy. And on some instances you may even go as far as criticising some royal laws also in an ironic tone&#8230;And then all of a sudden you are dancing to Hashmi Hashmi for two weeks, pimping meaningless initiatives and websites while eating magloobeh at exhibitions for war makers and mercenary services!!</p>
<p>I think you are in a position to realise that the palace in Jordan is the most and  the only  influential part in Jordanian policy&#8230;on every level&#8230; and in my personal opinion a person with a basic understanding of how this country works would either: demand better from the decision makers, join the herds of clappers and dancers or simply say nothing&#8230;.But to try to give yourself legitimacy through endless criticism with the purpose of masking your conformist nature is just deceiving and dishonest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mohanned</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113896</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohanned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/04/01/live-at-sofex-in-amman/#comment-113896</guid>
		<description>Good stuff, thanks for the share</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, thanks for the share</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
