I am not been able to get over 9/11 but these Foxies,, Bushies and their cronies - It was just a pretext to reign in their criminal empire for next 8 years. In short my outrage is - If I were to be the President (King) of US for one day - I will have these Foxies (TV Network retards) , Bushies and their cronies hang by neck in the middle of the intersection - I bet theu wouldn’t die as brave as Saddam did. - Crust of the matter - Wake up Americans and smell the roses and hit the streets.

http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id324.html

and the odigo warning.(israeli company)

Odigo claims that, two hours before the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, two Odigo employees received messages of a possible terrorist attack. Odigo informed Israeli and American authorities, and assisted their investigations during the aftermath of the suicide attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odigo_Messenger

The biggest inconsistency in 9-11 is that it was used to justify the Iraq war when most of the hijackers were Saudis, al-qaida presence in Iraq began after the US invasion. Incidentally the US invasion was a much bigger atrocity and crime against humanity than 9-11 with civilian casualties int he 10s of thousands.

Natalia said:(I get the sense that a lot of people living there just couldn’t see Israel turning on its ally like that)

There are documented incidents where Israel has behaved nothing like an ally towards the US. Kindly lookup (Jonathan Pollard) American Jew, and Israeli Spy who stole more classified information than any other spy caught in us history. Every Israeli administration since begs the US to free him to this day. Hundreds of Israeli intelligence officers were arrested after 9-11 including many close to WTC. Some were even arrested by the NYPD after witnesses saw them celebrating. The historical evidence shows the same where Israel bombed American targets in Egypt in attempt to blame Egyptian radicals, and also attacked the largest US intelligence NSA ship of its kind at the time also in an attempt to blame Egypt. Accounts by Ex-Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky in his book (By way of Deception) confirm this type of frame the opposition tactic and that Israel spies on the US heavily as well as some of Israels own atrocities in regards to conducting atomic bacteriological and chemical weapons manufacturing experiments occasionally using Palestinian convicts (guess that trick was learned from the Nazis). A tiger doesn’t change its spots.

thanks for flattering our intelligence as arab people

any dialoge of 9/11 discusses how cavemen like al-qaeda could operate such a high skil plan and not because they are arabs who are incapable. Arab potential is beyond questioning, proven in history to say the least. our failure as we see it is because of complex of reasons that don’t vary much in my opinion from the general theory of a civilization or a nation life cycle.

majority of arabs dislike alqaeda, people are joining their lines out of dispair from the formal system, continued and increased poverty.. with a strong motive of international injustice towards arabs and their root cause: Palestine.

Between 270 to 400 Jews died on 9-11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#Jewish_involvement

According to one internet source 28 Muslims died.
http://crosswordbebop.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-many-muslims-died-in-911-attacks_01.html

I am sorry to disappoint by saying that it won’t; simply because we have already done the above, we have cut the crap from the start, my friend, in a lame attempt at “enhancing our image”, but it didn’t work.

On another note, the war on Iraq was based on alleged accusations of Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction, which was negated later by the allegers themselves. So, they actually cut the crap for you - but the war continued, and still our “image” couldn’t provide.

Even if our image (Arabic and Muslim Brand) becomes irresistibly agreeable to the masses in the west, I can assure you, it will have nothing to do with wars, money, oil, power, it might help you feel better if you’re in the west, that is. But, when it comes to wars, foreign policies, power, strategic and economical matters; your beautiful talk about crossing cultures and understanding each other, will sound like selling perfumes in the hungry lions den!

Unless, the power of the people is so strong, in the East and the West that is, to alter wars, and spread peace. Unless!

I only see individual efforts in the US and Europe to improve the image of Arabs and Muslims in the west world. I am part of this effort and it needs alot of work.

So lets drop out the crap of conspracy theories and start reaching to more americans and europeans who are so eager to know about us

They know that Israel get people to work for it, be it the american military or their security and intelligence bodies.. Al-Qaeda might be only a tool formed on right wing tendancy, they have many believers or faith hearted individuals but are easily manipulated. A CIA formation that still functions, even if they did the attacks by themselves, some had many ways to capitalize on that… Its all about the oil, each with a style.. Bully American, Silly Russian, Stupid European, or Smart Chinesse

Solmon, nothing is wrong with us arabs more than what you have caused us! Stealing a country do make lots of problems to a wide nation as you can see, all of us are trying to figure out how to get it back each in his school of thought.

Approximately 10% of the victims were Jewish, according to the U.S. department of state. It’s hard to track because, unlike many countries, the US does not require — or encourage, or even *permit* — employers to track the religion of their employees.

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html

I say this as someone who was living in Jordan on 9/11, and was *extraordinarily* hurt by those rumors. Even if you do believe that Israel was behind 9/11 (which I definitely don’t, as it has been claimed by another organization that makes more sense), to assume that all Jews are in league with the state of Israel is silly. Also, Mossad is not stupid. How would they have notified all the Jews to mysteriously not go to work that day? Secret Jew Radio? Seriously?

And as for Al Qaeda not being sophisticated enough… unfortunately, I think this speaks much more to the disorganization of U.S. air security. It wasn’t a particularly sophisticated attack, all things considered. It was a combination of luck, knowledge of the holes in our security system (which were huge and obvious to those who looked), and timing. It was brilliant because it was simple, not sophisticated.

That translates to me as “I haven’t given it much thought” and/or “does it really matter” and/or “who cares?”

Considering the impact this event has not just in the realm of U.S. politic and policy, but also in terms of foreign investment in Jordanian businesses, tourism and in some part the current Iraqi refugee issue, I would think more individuals would hold an opinion - even if some are more conspiratorial than others.

I am not justifying anything for extremists – and you know that they’re very few in our part of the world - I am justifying it for million innocent others, who felt that they might have been affected by 9/11, or the consequences that followed it.

Theories are just thoughts, and if you want to take that from people, then that’s how you see things – at least the Americans have no problem with it - then why should we! Because simply, theories don’t generate actions; but accusations my friend, they do; they justify wars, laws and consequent actions.

I am confused as most people are; but I am not accepting realities as they are, I can’t do it, and I know there are many people out there who can’t, at least I don’t shut my voice and go with the flow - that’s why I am writing this down right now!

Even if 9/11 was a conspiracy theory made by the Americans, then how would you explain the terrorist attacks in London, Madrid, Amman, Sharm el Sheikh, Morocco, Riyadh, Istanbul and several other international cities? Were they all conspiracy theories organized by the American government? Give me a break.

Now, consider the fact that the Black Death was also blamed on Jews. It’s damn convenient.

Speculate all you want, it sure is fun But I feel with the I-believe-AlQaeda-is-too-inefficient-to-do it sentiment. And those are my worthless 2-cents.

No, most of the non-al Qaeda conspiracy theories were well-established within ten days of 9-11. The “documentaries” made afterwards were commercial vehicles targeted to feed this eager market of people who wanted to believe in conspiracy.

how did this plane skip the highly secure airspace

The short answer is, it wasn’t very secure. Check out back issues of Aviation Week & Space Technology for the whole story of air defense activity on that day.

How did a guy, newly trained according to intelligence resources, manage such a hard maneuver

Computerized flight controls helped steady the plane.

how come there was not any plane debris as a result of the crash?

There was debris. Some of it burned - even aluminum burns. Again, check out Aviation Week for some of the best details.

Naturally, these short, simple answers do nothing to alleviate dedicated conspiracy theorists, who demand absolute proof of disproval. [ How do we know Governor Palin didn’t father an illegitimate child? Sure, she’s a woman, but was she always? Prove it, the government has to release the documents…]

My point is, watching any of these documentaries, and applying just a little bit of logic to the whole issue, one realizes that this could have never been done by a group like Al Qaeda. Or to be more specific, Al Qaeda alone.

Take the airplane which supposedly hit The Pentagon! Exactly how did this plane skip the highly secure airspace in that area? How did 84 survillance cameras skip it from all angels according to the FBI? Why did the FBI refuse to release but few of these tapes? How did a guy, newly trained according to intelligence resources, manage such a hard maneuver with a huge plane? And, how come there was not any plane debris as a result of the crash?

These questions need to be answered by the US government!! A country which has the best intelligence system, defence system, and offence system. A superpower!! How can they fail to see an attack by few thugs!!

And then, the aftermath!! Look at the results:

1. More troops in new countries (Iraq, Afghanestan)
2. New reasons for arming, selling arms, imposing new rules and new control over the world. Practically, acting a global policeman, or a global father for a group of misbehaving kids!!
3. Zillion of dollars of contracts for american companies in Iraq!! To R-E-B-U-I-L-D!
4. A right to use the argument ” You are not on our side?! then, you are on the terrorists side”

That’s my opinion!… But there is one thing for sure. Seven years on, we remember two things:

1. Those who died in that sad incident.
2. The safe and friendly world that George W. Bush & the American Administration built in the aftermath!!

Sad how the memory of some is dishonoured by the actions of others!

The “however” is a sign that even though you thought you didn’t believe the propaganda, it has affected you anyway.

As for why Israel or America get blamed anyway, my two pet theories are:

1) Blaming Israel/America is safe. No one is going to kill you for saying so. Arabs and Muslims, on the other hand, take offense easily, and that could be your next-door neighbor or colleague.

2) It seems Arabs will do anything to avoid looking at themselves as the source of their problems, so blaming a handy outsider is the acceptable substitute.

Also, look at Egypt, the few democracy advocates who essentially said Arabs or Arab culture are the problem are in jail or exile, whereas those who trumpet, “Islam is the solution” or “America/Israel is the problem” are riding high. That’s because the first group are competitors for power and conscience; the second group is either with the regime or can be stroked to come to terms with it.

And who said that we’re the ones to come up with the conspiracy theories; they just present themselves to any one with sense, it’s not rocket science, just having a tiny bit of sense. I can’t believe that there are any people out there who share your opinion!

If this poll is telling one something, it is that even after 7 years of 9/11; the world is still confused thanks to a successful American policy, and a clever foreign policy to be precise. The world is under the influence of one major power, where all else is vague but the righteousness that it offers. We are blindfolded-ly accepting all the realities - were they bitter or sweet - for no apparent reason but to adhere to that absolute power. Some of us are more confused than others, but it’s their mere luck! – Whether they’re under siege, or living in pseudo democracies or in an actual war zone, confused, bewildered and dryly trying to move on!

Many of my western friends keep asking me, why we Arabs love conspiracy theories and always like to involve israel in every failure we did.

BTW, Haitham posted a link to a really excellent video on the subject (missing links):
hxxp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/08/21/missing-links/

It’s 2 hours, and kinda one sided, but very eye-opening. I downloaded it and put it on DVD myself.

What Palestinians and Jordanians think?!
Does it even matter; when the world is bulging with zillion conspiracy theories?!
Which Jordanians and Palestinians is the poll talking about; they certainly never asked me what my opinion was!