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	<title>Comments on: Under Construction: The Global Financial Crisis And Jordan</title>
	<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/</link>
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		<title>By: Yusuf mansur</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-130719</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf mansur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for addressing this very important issue. It is amazing how many Jordanians, including bloggers, are giving more time and thought ot such an important issue that the managers of the economy whose job it is to give the issue not some thought but alot of not only thinking but effort. Unfortunately, we don't have think tanks to come up with well reserached scenarios and proper diagnosis not only of the possible impacts but also of strategic action.

Here is my two cents:
1. Imports become cheaper with a world depression;
2. Our exports are a third of imports and not most will be affected: the pharmaceutical industry will benefit since we produce and export cheaper medicines; toursim will fall slightly but not much because the JD is still inexpensive in terms of exchnage rate--hasn'rt risen back to its pre 2003 value and most of our tourists are Arabs; QIZ exports have little to no effect on GDP (95% of investment is foriegn, 75% of wage bill goes to expats, there is no borrowing from local banks, and factories use subsidized resources); phosphate and potash may be affected only if oil prices remain low; and the same goes for our agriculture exports which we really shouldn't export--uses scarce water, employs few jordanians, and prices of vegetables are high locally.
3. Tourism, because Jordan is small, has little developmental effort on jordan. Small countries benefit little from tourism because most earnings are leaked as imports.
4.Remittances: even if some return, expectations are that the Gulf will recover by 2011 latest and if the oil prices rise back the recovery will be quicker. Dubai with 250,000 Jordanians will most likely be the most affected (has no oil reserves, highest external debt to GDP ratio, uses derivatives and is hevaily exposed to global banking trends. some may return but if they bring back their savings their return will boost the economy for one-two years. So this is not totally bad, and the economy will be bouyed until they return.

So the economy can wither this crisis and we can even gain as a consumer in the global economy. But we are not doing anything to alleviate the distress that is fomenting in people's psyche:

The Central bank, unlike all the banks of the world remains to lower interest rates or remove its some of its restrictions even though our foreign reserves are at an all time high.

The government is moving slowly and not speaking to us enough to create positive expectations. It is not alrmed by the fall in the GDP growth rate this year and last.

The high interest rate and the mishandling of the Bourse companies crisis has created great distress in the financial market and has driven prices of stocks down. The deterioration of Jordanian wealth is significant.

General uncertainty ahs brough real estate prices down in a manner that is  unwitnessed in the history of Jordan.

What we have is what economists call: policy ineffectiveness; worse still it should be called: government ineffectiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for addressing this very important issue. It is amazing how many Jordanians, including bloggers, are giving more time and thought ot such an important issue that the managers of the economy whose job it is to give the issue not some thought but alot of not only thinking but effort. Unfortunately, we don&#8217;t have think tanks to come up with well reserached scenarios and proper diagnosis not only of the possible impacts but also of strategic action.</p>
<p>Here is my two cents:<br />
1. Imports become cheaper with a world depression;<br />
2. Our exports are a third of imports and not most will be affected: the pharmaceutical industry will benefit since we produce and export cheaper medicines; toursim will fall slightly but not much because the JD is still inexpensive in terms of exchnage rate&#8211;hasn&#8217;rt risen back to its pre 2003 value and most of our tourists are Arabs; QIZ exports have little to no effect on GDP (95% of investment is foriegn, 75% of wage bill goes to expats, there is no borrowing from local banks, and factories use subsidized resources); phosphate and potash may be affected only if oil prices remain low; and the same goes for our agriculture exports which we really shouldn&#8217;t export&#8211;uses scarce water, employs few jordanians, and prices of vegetables are high locally.<br />
3. Tourism, because Jordan is small, has little developmental effort on jordan. Small countries benefit little from tourism because most earnings are leaked as imports.<br />
4.Remittances: even if some return, expectations are that the Gulf will recover by 2011 latest and if the oil prices rise back the recovery will be quicker. Dubai with 250,000 Jordanians will most likely be the most affected (has no oil reserves, highest external debt to GDP ratio, uses derivatives and is hevaily exposed to global banking trends. some may return but if they bring back their savings their return will boost the economy for one-two years. So this is not totally bad, and the economy will be bouyed until they return.</p>
<p>So the economy can wither this crisis and we can even gain as a consumer in the global economy. But we are not doing anything to alleviate the distress that is fomenting in people&#8217;s psyche:</p>
<p>The Central bank, unlike all the banks of the world remains to lower interest rates or remove its some of its restrictions even though our foreign reserves are at an all time high.</p>
<p>The government is moving slowly and not speaking to us enough to create positive expectations. It is not alrmed by the fall in the GDP growth rate this year and last.</p>
<p>The high interest rate and the mishandling of the Bourse companies crisis has created great distress in the financial market and has driven prices of stocks down. The deterioration of Jordanian wealth is significant.</p>
<p>General uncertainty ahs brough real estate prices down in a manner that is  unwitnessed in the history of Jordan.</p>
<p>What we have is what economists call: policy ineffectiveness; worse still it should be called: government ineffectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-128482</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-128482</guid>
		<description>muntaser:

first, i didn't understand about 95% of what you wrote. if you're more comfortable in arabic, please write in arabic.

second, i don't know if you were addressing me or others, but please respect everyone's right to an opinion. 

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muntaser:</p>
<p>first, i didn&#8217;t understand about 95% of what you wrote. if you&#8217;re more comfortable in arabic, please write in arabic.</p>
<p>second, i don&#8217;t know if you were addressing me or others, but please respect everyone&#8217;s right to an opinion. </p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: muntaser</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-128481</link>
		<dc:creator>muntaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-128481</guid>
		<description>al salam alykom

dear i will tell u something u dont know about jordan and jordanian people
first you had to know that jordan with his simplist land (no wate and no oil ) proved himself in the world and becam as he the heart of the medle east as the the heart of the body .

then jordanian people have thinking before he invest in any kind of invistment he want and so in addition of his religin bleves that intrest is prohebeted and not preferable thing he putted his mony in islamic banks and no intrest by the way . so the economy dosent affected from financial perspective.

on the other wise the financial market in jordan is closed market that means that do not have very much financial deals with world financial market like forex for example, 

so finally i advice you to visit jordan you are wellcome to know jordan at real uless you are dirty jowesh ...
on the next time please have some sense when you are talking about jordan and be carefull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al salam alykom</p>
<p>dear i will tell u something u dont know about jordan and jordanian people<br />
first you had to know that jordan with his simplist land (no wate and no oil ) proved himself in the world and becam as he the heart of the medle east as the the heart of the body .</p>
<p>then jordanian people have thinking before he invest in any kind of invistment he want and so in addition of his religin bleves that intrest is prohebeted and not preferable thing he putted his mony in islamic banks and no intrest by the way . so the economy dosent affected from financial perspective.</p>
<p>on the other wise the financial market in jordan is closed market that means that do not have very much financial deals with world financial market like forex for example, </p>
<p>so finally i advice you to visit jordan you are wellcome to know jordan at real uless you are dirty jowesh &#8230;<br />
on the next time please have some sense when you are talking about jordan and be carefull.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125297</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125297</guid>
		<description>This is not the end of America.

America is finally realizing the concept of "invisible money". Among many other Americans, I have been spending money that really isn't in my checking account. I have a high credit limit - I can buy a big screen TV and fly to Paris a couple fo times this week.

Do I make that much money? No. Can I SPEND that much? Yes.

It makes no sense, i know. But this country rewards spenders with more spending power, and now, we're finally becoming conscious of that.

Some one with poor payment history, now, can't get many credit cards or high mortgage limits. Banks don't lend as easily.

People are realizing that if they can't pay cash for the big screen, they shouldn't buy it on credit, using their "invisisble money".

The concept of buying something and paying it back over years and years of installments is getting unpopular very quickly. People are renting more than borrowing to own, they're buying used cars for cash instead of luxury new cars on credit.

This was a wake-up call. A rough one, but hardly the end of anything American besides the bad spending habit.

Gas is back down to $2.XX after almost reaching $5, and the stock market is finally seeing some green positive tickers instead of the constantly red negative drops. The bailout helped a lot.

A lot of people criticize governments bailing banks out. But how funny is it that the EU waited on us to implement this, then did the EXACT SAME thing?

I guess we're not doing anything wrong afterall.

We're okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not the end of America.</p>
<p>America is finally realizing the concept of &#8220;invisible money&#8221;. Among many other Americans, I have been spending money that really isn&#8217;t in my checking account. I have a high credit limit - I can buy a big screen TV and fly to Paris a couple fo times this week.</p>
<p>Do I make that much money? No. Can I SPEND that much? Yes.</p>
<p>It makes no sense, i know. But this country rewards spenders with more spending power, and now, we&#8217;re finally becoming conscious of that.</p>
<p>Some one with poor payment history, now, can&#8217;t get many credit cards or high mortgage limits. Banks don&#8217;t lend as easily.</p>
<p>People are realizing that if they can&#8217;t pay cash for the big screen, they shouldn&#8217;t buy it on credit, using their &#8220;invisisble money&#8221;.</p>
<p>The concept of buying something and paying it back over years and years of installments is getting unpopular very quickly. People are renting more than borrowing to own, they&#8217;re buying used cars for cash instead of luxury new cars on credit.</p>
<p>This was a wake-up call. A rough one, but hardly the end of anything American besides the bad spending habit.</p>
<p>Gas is back down to $2.XX after almost reaching $5, and the stock market is finally seeing some green positive tickers instead of the constantly red negative drops. The bailout helped a lot.</p>
<p>A lot of people criticize governments bailing banks out. But how funny is it that the EU waited on us to implement this, then did the EXACT SAME thing?</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;re not doing anything wrong afterall.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices in Italiano &#187; Giordania: combattere la corruzione, vivere a New York e affrontare la crisi economica</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125154</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices in Italiano &#187; Giordania: combattere la corruzione, vivere a New York e affrontare la crisi economica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125154</guid>
		<description>[...] Qui un altro post [in] di Naseem sull&#39;economia giordana. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Qui un altro post [in] di Naseem sull&#39;economia giordana. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125153</guid>
		<description>In a global economy, why limit oneself to Gulf-driven enterprises?

For example, @JD makes an excellent point about the perils of Jordan putting all its economic eggs into a single basket.

Instead, why not aggressively branch out? One area that comes to mind is outsourcing in the technical arena - leveraging the mastery of English demonstrated Jordanians here and elsewhere.

There are other similar areas that don't require huge investments that can achieve a sustainable positive cash-flow in a short period of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a global economy, why limit oneself to Gulf-driven enterprises?</p>
<p>For example, @JD makes an excellent point about the perils of Jordan putting all its economic eggs into a single basket.</p>
<p>Instead, why not aggressively branch out? One area that comes to mind is outsourcing in the technical arena - leveraging the mastery of English demonstrated Jordanians here and elsewhere.</p>
<p>There are other similar areas that don&#8217;t require huge investments that can achieve a sustainable positive cash-flow in a short period of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nas</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125129</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125129</guid>
		<description>JD: thanks for the comment, however, i think when someone declares their interest in tackling something within the framework of a social debate, it no longer qualities as "fueling rumors" if you know what i mean ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD: thanks for the comment, however, i think when someone declares their interest in tackling something within the framework of a social debate, it no longer qualities as &#8220;fueling rumors&#8221; if you know what i mean <img src='http://www.black-iris.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125119</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125119</guid>
		<description>I like the angle that #3 brings up: strengthening regulations and learning from the mistakes of others.  a Three very simple lesson the world needs to learn: 
1- credit should only be given to those who can afford it and it should be priced appropriately.
2- never assume that house prices can only go up.
3- do not underestimate liquidty risk.

I disagree with the view that Jordan will benefit from what's going on. No one will. I also don't quite agree with the view that the gulf is particularly weighing the options between jordan and UK/USA. They're completely different markets with different return expectations.

I do agree, however, that if the gulf sneezes, Jordan will catch a cold. A cold of the worst kind. 

On another note, I'm surprised that the one and only Nas is actually fuelling rumours under the '"interested in the social debate" title. There's nothing wrong with that, but I just thought that was funny.

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the angle that #3 brings up: strengthening regulations and learning from the mistakes of others.  a Three very simple lesson the world needs to learn:<br />
1- credit should only be given to those who can afford it and it should be priced appropriately.<br />
2- never assume that house prices can only go up.<br />
3- do not underestimate liquidty risk.</p>
<p>I disagree with the view that Jordan will benefit from what&#8217;s going on. No one will. I also don&#8217;t quite agree with the view that the gulf is particularly weighing the options between jordan and UK/USA. They&#8217;re completely different markets with different return expectations.</p>
<p>I do agree, however, that if the gulf sneezes, Jordan will catch a cold. A cold of the worst kind. </p>
<p>On another note, I&#8217;m surprised that the one and only Nas is actually fuelling rumours under the &#8216;&#8221;interested in the social debate&#8221; title. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that, but I just thought that was funny.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: zait o za3tar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125116</link>
		<dc:creator>zait o za3tar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125116</guid>
		<description>If we approach this crisis scientifically, Jordan has the potential to emerge stronger from it. There is a threat to our economy, but it also gives us an opportunity to strengthen our regulations and learn from the mistakes of others before they happen in Jordan.

I hope we can react fast enough to the volatile environment in this world and stay ahead of the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we approach this crisis scientifically, Jordan has the potential to emerge stronger from it. There is a threat to our economy, but it also gives us an opportunity to strengthen our regulations and learn from the mistakes of others before they happen in Jordan.</p>
<p>I hope we can react fast enough to the volatile environment in this world and stay ahead of the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Jordan: Fighting Corruption, New York and the Economic Crisis</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125114</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Jordan: Fighting Corruption, New York and the Economic Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125114</guid>
		<description>[...] on Naseem&#39;s opinion on the Jordanian economy, here.    Posted by Mohammad Azraq   &#160;Print Version    Share [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on Naseem&#39;s opinion on the Jordanian economy, here.    Posted by Mohammad Azraq   &nbsp;Print Version    Share [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ammar</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125113</link>
		<dc:creator>Ammar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125113</guid>
		<description>Nothing bad will happen to the jordanian economy with this world crisis bit on the contrary it could prove to be benefecial to our economy check this article in alghad newspaper
http://www.alghad.jo/?article=10698</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing bad will happen to the jordanian economy with this world crisis bit on the contrary it could prove to be benefecial to our economy check this article in alghad newspaper<br />
<a href="http://www.alghad.jo/?article=10698" rel="nofollow">http://www.alghad.jo/?article=10698</a></p>
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		<title>By: abu daoud</title>
		<link>http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/12/under-construction-the-global-financial-crisis-and-jordan/#comment-125112</link>
		<dc:creator>abu daoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to me that Jordan has put a great deal of emphasis on developing tourism, but at the same time the new restrictions on restaurants during Ramadan say fairly clearly to non-Muslim foreigners, don't come here during Ramadan, which is a good length of time. 

Has there been discussion about this? All sorts of conferences and meetings that might be held in Jordan during Ramadan will be moved to other countries that don't have restrictions like that. Are people talking about this? Have the new restrictions on restaurants been received well by people? 

I find this question to be quite closely related to the topic you mentioned about Gulf money and development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to me that Jordan has put a great deal of emphasis on developing tourism, but at the same time the new restrictions on restaurants during Ramadan say fairly clearly to non-Muslim foreigners, don&#8217;t come here during Ramadan, which is a good length of time. </p>
<p>Has there been discussion about this? All sorts of conferences and meetings that might be held in Jordan during Ramadan will be moved to other countries that don&#8217;t have restrictions like that. Are people talking about this? Have the new restrictions on restaurants been received well by people? </p>
<p>I find this question to be quite closely related to the topic you mentioned about Gulf money and development.</p>
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