Comments on: Bittersweet Sixteen http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/ A Jordanian Blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:24:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125668 Nas Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:24:21 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125668 <b>Dear Libnane:</b> thank you for the comment. i think when it comes to blogging, bloggers, and the opinions that people hold of one another, the better solution is to simply not read. calling on the shutting down of a blog, which is literally advocating the stifling of one fellow human being's right to speak, is never the answer, and it doesn't help our identity either. Thanks :-) Dear Libnane: thank you for the comment. i think when it comes to blogging, bloggers, and the opinions that people hold of one another, the better solution is to simply not read. calling on the shutting down of a blog, which is literally advocating the stifling of one fellow human being’s right to speak, is never the answer, and it doesn’t help our identity either.

Thanks :-)

]]> By: Libnane http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125667 Libnane Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:17:03 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125667 i cant wait till they pass a law against these honor killings, such a disgusting part of tradition, and it gives our Arabic culture and identity...but what i want more is for your blog to be shut down.seriously. if i read another post on american politics, american silly hollywood films, american pathetic musicians, a celebration of the "glories" you have achieved, an article on how awesome and great you are. an article on the wonders of blogging,a cartoon from mahjoob, or yet anoter typical article from a typical 20 year old, i will jump off the burj of dubai\1 i cant wait till they pass a law against these honor killings, such a disgusting part of tradition, and it gives our Arabic culture and identity…but what i want more is for your blog to be shut down.seriously. if i read another post on american politics, american silly hollywood films, american pathetic musicians, a celebration of the “glories” you have achieved, an article on how awesome and great you are. an article on the wonders of blogging,a cartoon from mahjoob, or yet anoter typical article from a typical 20 year old, i will jump off the burj of dubai\1

]]> By: Nadine http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125661 Nadine Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:31:01 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125661 What's hypocritical is that it's 2008, we aspire towards progressive, and we're having a polite conversation about honor crimes! Really?! We're still in 'talking' mode?! Crazy, don't you think? Putting in place serious legislation that is seriously enforced is a decision and action by the many which must deafen and bury the ignorance of the few. It's really simple. What are we afraid of? That a handful of people are going to get bruised over this? Too bad, the war stories will be blogged and we'll get over it. A few bruises and discomfort resulting from real commitment and practice that ends honor crimes in Jordan is a small price to pay compared to the blood of the slaughtered women on our hands. What’s hypocritical is that it’s 2008, we aspire towards progressive, and we’re having a polite conversation about honor crimes! Really?! We’re still in ‘talking’ mode?! Crazy, don’t you think?

Putting in place serious legislation that is seriously enforced is a decision and action by the many which must deafen and bury the ignorance of the few.

It’s really simple. What are we afraid of? That a handful of people are going to get bruised over this? Too bad, the war stories will be blogged and we’ll get over it. A few bruises and discomfort resulting from real commitment and practice that ends honor crimes in Jordan is a small price to pay compared to the blood of the slaughtered women on our hands.

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125659 Nas Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:06:31 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125659 urduni: lol that's a bit hypocritical don't you think? when it comes to a law that governs people's actions on the deepest cultural and societal level, aren't we supposed to be against the more authoritarian laws, and stick with the more democratic ones where the issue is put to a vote in parliament and passed by the people? the reason there isn't a law is because the people's representatives don't want to pass that law, and like it or not, when it comes to such issues, they are a pretty representative sample of what their constituencies believe. urduni: lol that’s a bit hypocritical don’t you think? when it comes to a law that governs people’s actions on the deepest cultural and societal level, aren’t we supposed to be against the more authoritarian laws, and stick with the more democratic ones where the issue is put to a vote in parliament and passed by the people? the reason there isn’t a law is because the people’s representatives don’t want to pass that law, and like it or not, when it comes to such issues, they are a pretty representative sample of what their constituencies believe.

]]> By: Alurdunialhurr http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125617 Alurdunialhurr Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:20:35 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125617 "i thought socialism was about relying less on leaders to do the job of a collective society? " Nas ,,Please don't mix apple with oranges,my beliefs and your beliefs are irrelevance ESPECIALLY with your post on honor crimes. We all know why the Family that rules Jordan does not want to change the laws fearing that it will lose it's "tribal" legitimacy and support,and we all know that the king will be able to change these backward laws with a strike of his pen,i guarantee you that,but he does not want to because it's a matter of cynical calculation.. “i thought socialism was about relying less on leaders to do the job of a collective society? ”
Nas ,,Please don’t mix apple with oranges,my beliefs and your beliefs are irrelevance ESPECIALLY with your post on honor crimes.
We all know why the Family that rules Jordan does not want to change the laws fearing that it will lose it’s “tribal” legitimacy and support,and we all know that the king will be able to change these backward laws with a strike of his pen,i guarantee you that,but he does not want to because it’s a matter of cynical calculation..

]]> By: Luna http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125605 Luna Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:28:07 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125605 Well Ali, as far as I know, in 1999 there was a country-wide campaign, and volunteers from all walks of life signed petitions to our our parliament members. If I remember correctly, the signatures were in tens of thousands, followed by a peaceful march to the parliament with many highly reputable individuals taking part in it (including if I'm not mistaken some members of the Royal Family)... Well, what did our "highly intelligent" MPs say? ah... that the campaign was blowing the issue out of proportion, that the campaign was funded by "foreign" agencies that seek to ruin Jordanian "moral standards".... bla bla bla... and they voted against the change of law.... very civilized indeed! Well Ali, as far as I know, in 1999 there was a country-wide campaign, and volunteers from all walks of life signed petitions to our our parliament members. If I remember correctly, the signatures were in tens of thousands, followed by a peaceful march to the parliament with many highly reputable individuals taking part in it (including if I’m not mistaken some members of the Royal Family)…

Well, what did our “highly intelligent” MPs say? ah… that the campaign was blowing the issue out of proportion, that the campaign was funded by “foreign” agencies that seek to ruin Jordanian “moral standards”…. bla bla bla… and they voted against the change of law…. very civilized indeed!

]]> By: Ali http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125595 Ali Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:50:20 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125595 I realy have a question about honor crimes. When are we going to put an end to this shame act of crime, can't someone like Her Majesty the Queen who is influential enought to sponsor a law against such crimes. Should we put a law in the Parlaiment to end such injustice that fall on women in Jordan. I think its about time I realy have a question about honor crimes. When are we going to put an end to this shame act of crime, can’t someone like Her Majesty the Queen who is influential enought to sponsor a law against such crimes. Should we put a law in the Parlaiment to end such injustice that fall on women in Jordan. I think its about time

]]> By: kinzi http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125577 kinzi Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:47:41 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125577 Tears and grief Tears and grief

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125576 Nas Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:47:10 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125576 <i>"Where is queen Rania when we need her most,"</i> isn't that the tagline for superman? anyways, that's kind of a strange statement coming from you. i thought socialism was about relying less on leaders to do the job of a collective society? no? ah well. let's just wait for our leaders to fix all our problems “Where is queen Rania when we need her most,”

isn’t that the tagline for superman?

anyways, that’s kind of a strange statement coming from you. i thought socialism was about relying less on leaders to do the job of a collective society?

no?

ah well.

let’s just wait for our leaders to fix all our problems

]]> By: Alurdunialhurr http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125569 Alurdunialhurr Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:22:33 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125569 Where is queen Rania when we need her most,I guess she is busy answering question on Youtube about the Jordanian reckless drivers and the image of Arabs in the west.. Where is queen Rania when we need her most,I guess she is busy answering question on Youtube about the Jordanian reckless drivers and the image of Arabs in the west..

]]> By: Nas http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125546 Nas Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:12:02 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125546 Luna: the word in this context is really a play on "sweet sixteen"...which in this case...is obviously not so sweet at all. thanks Luna: the word in this context is really a play on “sweet sixteen”…which in this case…is obviously not so sweet at all. thanks

]]> By: secratea http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125545 secratea Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:11:51 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125545 *honor *honor

]]> By: secratea http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125544 secratea Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:10:06 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125544 these honer crimes leave a stark bitterness in my mouth; disgust that makes me wanna spew blood; blood of all the girls who have been murdered in the name of "honor" in my beloved country; JORDAN. these honer crimes leave a stark bitterness in my mouth; disgust that makes me wanna spew blood; blood of all the girls who have been murdered in the name of “honor” in my beloved country; JORDAN.

]]> By: Luna http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125543 Luna Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:58:17 +0000 http://www.black-iris.com/2008/10/30/bittersweet-sixteen/#comment-125543 Nas, You might want to change the title. According to Mirriam-Webster English dictionary, bittersweet means "something that is bittersweet ; especially : pleasure alloyed with pain". I do not see the pleasure component in this. Nas,
You might want to change the title. According to Mirriam-Webster English dictionary, bittersweet means “something that is bittersweet ; especially : pleasure alloyed with pain”. I do not see the pleasure component in this.

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