Comments on: Marwa Al-Sherbini: Killed For Wearing A Headscarf But At What Point Do We Say “Enough”?

By: rolfen

rolfen — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:34:56 +0000

This is exactly what I thought. 18 times… Well the only explanation I got is in one of the comments, saying that there was no security in the room (and no metal detectors!). Sounds pretty German to me. They are like this until something happens. I bet they have changed courtroom regulation by now. Still no excuse.

By: fatima

fatima — Mon, 10 May 2010 13:24:17 +0000

the fact remains. westerm media have turned there attention to anything that sells and suits there individual needs and brings in the dollar. hijaab has been banned in many countries, the first being in belgium and the trend seems to passing along in western society. i then ask the pertinent question… what has happened to freedom of expression ?? where are the rights of women gone to ?? what has happened to the equlity and freedom that modern societies claim to posses?? is it not ironic that it is these very same modern first world countries that then portary such barbarrism and cruelty ?? whats more astonishing is that the world remains in silence…. coincidental that she is a muslim woman ? media thrives on islamaphobia and that is no secret. a quick fact… islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA. and if you didnt know that…. well then blame it on the media on not feeding you the correct information. the beauty of Islam is beyond expression. It is simply fear of the true religion that drives others into taunting and tainting a noble religion. you have your religion and i have mine. we have both been granted the gift of intellect , use it to distinguish between good and evil, between truths and false, between what is correct and that which is incorrect. Islam deserves the respect that it teaches and inculcates into its believers . . . let us shine the white flag and bring peace into this world through unity and love. let each religion live in harmony.

By: marwah

marwah — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:48:32 +0000

someone should of done something about it especially if she had the same name as me!

By: Azrinna

Azrinna — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:30:31 +0000

The fact that Marwa El Sherbini was stabbed 18 times AND her husband was stabbed 3 tmes + shot before the tragedy comes to an end is so mind-boggling that I smelt fish somewhere.

I tried stabbing the air 18 times. It does not take 20 seconds. And heck, it does not even take 5-10 seconds. There is almost enough time for me to sing the chorus of Guns N Roses’ song.

Why wasn’t the tragedy stopped in time? She could have survived if she received lesser stabbings. Her kid would not have to suffer the trauma of the scene where his mom was brutally stabbed and killed infront of him. Her husband would not have been stabbed and shot.

All said and done, being a Muslim myself, I say that her time is up. Allah wanted her to end that way to open our eyes and see what is actually happening under our very noses everyday, everywhere. If this tragedy did not happen, I doubt this much hype would happen.

Allah is Great.

By: zainab

zainab — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:26:46 +0000

dear guys :
i am 13 years old and the marwa al sherdini crime was the most horrible crime i have ever knew . i mean the women was killed for wearing a veil i mean come on and in front of her 3 year old son.Also , while her husband was defending the security guard shot him ,

By: mohammad

mohammad — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:32:33 +0000

hi. be sure that Germany more than any country in the world defends the law and human rights. and be sure that It is possible to stab someone 18 times when police officer cant see the murderer and is shocked by the incident . so first SEE THE MOVIE if there is any.. and then imagine yourself in the police officer’s place. then consider that the man was accused by the court and were fined for 750 euros just for calling her a terrorist. and see the man in jail. and now OK that man was a racist or Nazi. he is a murderer and is guilty and that was a real tragedy and I’m also very unhappy about that .
but that was not judge’s fault. nor the police officer.
not Europe. they were shocked too because they were supporting Marwa…
so Muslims must not judge everything without thinking. and ignore the reality because that’s exactly what the real terrorists want.
I defend Marwa (peace upon her) and I hope All the courts have a program to prevent such things all over the world.
but thats my idea. when all religions make such grate hates why should we show off our religion? in a time when extremist want to take advantage of that. like ‘Nazi’,
‘Islamic extremism’, ‘Zionist extremism’,'even christian extremism in ancient times’ and…
isn’t our life by itself holy?
isn’t out development and justice holy?
isn’t a girl or a boy who happily laughs and make love holy?
so why we want to develop things that at the end will makes us hate others or make others hate us for nothing.
think about it… please…

By: Fatima Jaffery

Fatima Jaffery — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:27:28 +0000

WOW. thats crazy.

By: Nas

Nas — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:15:19 +0000

H de Pup: you’re comment was frankly idiotic. it is the kind of blindman instance that we, in the muslim world, do not speak out against extremists and terrorists. Jordan just marked the 4th year since suicide bomber killed dozens in hotels in our capital. the next day there were tens of thousands of people marching in protest of these extremists and calling for zarqawi’s head.

By: H de Pup

H de Pup — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:20:46 +0000

All hate crimes should be condemned unconditionally. Including those committed against the victims of 11 Sep 2001, and many many others, murdered by jihadist racists in the name of Islam, only because they were perceived as Jews and Christians, Hindus and Buddhist.
I cannot understand, and it makes me very angry, that not a SINGLE demonstration has been organised anywhere in the world, ever, in the name of Islam, against the racist savagery perpetrated by jihadists on a daily basis.
Judging from some of the Islamo-fascist reactions drained in stomach wrenching self-pity found on this website I do not expect to find any clarifications here.

May Marwa ash-Sherbini rest in peace.

By: Sesame

Sesame — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:42:41 +0000

The Real problem is:
a) a woman was murdered
b) the murderer’s freedom of speech had been denied

…& you chose b)? Really? Hmmm

In this particular situation, nothing matters more than the loss of this innocent life. Nothing. Which isn’t to say that freedom of speech isn’t an important topic – it is. But in this situation, it’s mind-boggling that you would opt for b) as the ‘real’ problem.

Also, do you think freedom of speech should cover any & every kind of speech? Slander, libel, defamation? Incitement of hatred?

By: The Real Problem Here

The Real Problem Here — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:04:19 +0000

The real problem here is that “Alex” should never have been charged money for speaking his mind. Germany needs to adopt Free Speech laws. Now all the Muslims in Germany know that speech in Germany is indeed, not “free” — it cost 760 Euros. You people in Germany need to speak out for Freedom of Speech and the judge should have thrown out that case that she filed. It was NOT reasonable of Marwa to file a case against someone in the West where people have always been free to speak their minds. She stepped on an egg and it exploded. Stay away from the eggs, hijab.

By: IndianaJohn

IndianaJohn — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:20:28 +0000

I just can’t understand why this woman would go Germany to be stabbed.

By: arv

arv — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:12:57 +0000

Thank you for your thoughts of peace, Rezah Farouq. It is so true that a group of radicals tend to make positive change so much more difficult since they tend to utterly misrepresent the larger group. If more people concentrated on spreading understanding for different cultures and expressed interest in getting to know them and focused on the positive attributes of faith (and religion) = love and caring, be it Islam, Judaism, Christianity or any other religion, we wouldn’t have these types of killings. Atrocities they all are – regardless of of who killed whom. Whether the killer here was deranged or not – racism and hatred most definitely played a part. Spouting hatred back at certain groups of people who happen to be affected by the violence (this time) and getting into a pissing contest over who was at fault, is, as usual, unproductive.
It is sad that some people use forums such as these to express their hatred rather than doing everything in their power to counteract and change it.

Being German myself, I also think German society needs to wake up and realize that reality is that people will hurt each other. People deserve more protection in the courtroom. Not having police present, not having metal detectors in place and not being aware of what is going on around you is not only dangerous but embarrassing. For a country that prides itself in its great intellectual wealth and knowledge, we still have a ways to go when it comes to awareness of reality and caring for all our people – regardless of what we look like and what religious group we belong to.

By: Zeeshan Amjad

Zeeshan Amjad — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:22:56 +0000

This is too much shocking, May her soul and her unborn child’s soul rest in peace..

By: Respect hijab

Respect hijab — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:36:08 +0000

J.doe or whatever your name is, are you sure your not related to the killer in question? you seem to have ignored what the reality of this subject is.
the poor lady was stabbed to death and no one stopped that crual creature becuase their either a coward or they dont want to interfere because after all if one muslim (terrorist) dies it will benefit the messed up western sociaty. what pple need to know is that if you kill one a thousand are born everyday and no matter how much they try they cannot wipe us out.
Sure this world is not for muslims unfortunately we will see these things more often as we are near to the end and dont forget for sincere muslims we have been promised paradise and im sure this is where Marwa and her family will be.

the media didnt get involved becasue they didnt want to anger the muslims around the world as they know we will want answers for what happend to sister Marwa. you see a muslim would interfere in situations like this because we value life and speak against injustice but these pple will watch you die and get counselling for watching someone die.

munafeek (hypocrics) they conceal their own faults and show what others have done and headline the word (MUSLIM)
when they see or hear ‘the word Muslim’ they hear sirens!
im not hear to spread hatred but on a human level if christians, jews, hindu or pple belonging to any other religion except Islam, just think what if feels likes to be a muslim then you too would be angered

Peace!

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By: PN-Indonesia

PN-Indonesia — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:43:25 +0000

Innalillahi Wa’inna Ilahi Rajiun…..
Ya Rabb Terima lah Hamba-Mu ini Disisi Terbaik bersama Orang-orang yang mati Syahid….Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar…

By: Mitch Nellerson

Mitch Nellerson — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:18:11 +0000

I believe it was Mitch that said that Alex was not necessarily a civilised practicing Christian

Well, for starters, you cannot report what isn’t true. Since the man is from Russia, there is a very good chance he is an atheist or at least has little involvement with any religion. Why would they report him as being a “civilized practicing Christian” if he wasn’t?

Europeans with their partner US are responsible for use of atomic bomb over Japan when the war was about to end.

Europeans had no involvement in the bombings of Hiroshima or Nagasaki, and the war wasn’t “about to end,” as you put it, when the bombs were used. In fact, the top leaders in Japan only narrowly agreed to surrender after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

By: Ahsan

Ahsan — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:48:03 +0000

Be remember when at Tianmen Square in China, hundreds were murdered and the media of China was not reporting the case in true manner, this was the European and US media which was saying that mis-reporting or not reporting something in media is a crime. What is your opinion when this media is not reporting the case of Marwa.

Also imagine 18 knife wounds over a human being take time, it can not be happened in one or two seconds. It all happened in the presence of more than a dozen people including a Judge. What was the role of ‘so respectable’ Judge and all presents in whole episode.

Salute the responsibility of guards, who opened fire on the husband of Marwa.

My friends, all this is not new, Europeans including Germans are not having a responsible citizen track record. Europeans were responsible for two wrold wars. Europeans with their partner US are responsible for use of atomic bomb over Japan when the war was about to end. Europeans are responsible for massacre of Iraq without any proof of so called ‘Mass Destruction Weapons’. Europeans are responsible for destroying Afghanistan without Afghans involvement in 9-11 (Note that all media reports held Saudis responsible for 9-11). Europeans are blood suckers of third world. They made most of the Asia and Africa their colonies and theft all valuables of these regions during 18th and 19th centuries. Their crimes are countless.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:18:39 +0000

I believe it was Mitch that said that Alex was not necessarily a civilised practicing Christian and that this is not necessarily important to the matter–so then why is that when a Muslim committs a crime, it is necessary to report it each time….hmmm, i wonder.

It is sickening to not have heard about this in the news–i heard about it by word of mouth through some friends. There are too many unanswered questions regarding what happened in the courtroom and how this could occur. I wish the best for Marwas family and hope that her son finds peace as this will eventually be most difficult for him.

By: Natalia

Natalia — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:32:22 +0000

imagine..a police saw a robbery and he had Bystander_effect .. .. .. .. lols..never happen..

Actually, he was called in from a different part of the court building as the crime was happening, and shot the husband. So what happened there is actually a little bit more damning for him than for anyone else in that courtroom at the time. Confusion in such cases is common, and we will never know for certain if he was honestly reacting to what he believed her saw, or if he automatically assumed that a dark, Arab man was the attacker.

Either way, it’s of no small comfort to the bereaved family.

By: David Levy

David Levy — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:26 +0000

“you can rest assured that had a neo-nazi skin head had killed a pregnant jewish lady in court in similar circumstances the response from media, international outrage and reactions from leaders would have been completely different…”

Absolutely Zofia. But, this is exactly what many Westerners, (not only Germans) deny, no matter what evidence is brought before them. They act like they’ve never heard of or experienced such an instance EVER! And, they’ll pretend the same thing even if, today a Muslim killed a Jewish or Christian, pregnant lady in one of their courts, and there is the kind of media and political backlash like we all know that would lead to.

The Western mindset has been programmed to see Muslims as perpetrators who are NEVER deserving of sympathy. This is no accident. It’s that way by design. Many in the West view Muslims as “deserving” of the bad things that happen to them.

If “Alex W” had been Muslim and Marwa Jewish or Christian, the Western media and leaders alike would have asked questions like, “Where are the moderate Muslims”? They would never have claimed that “Alex W” is a “lone wolf”. He would have been portrayed as a product of Islam. As a product of a group.

I ask now, “Where are the moderate Germans”? “Where are the moderate Westerners”?

I am a Westerner, but I refuse to believe, follow or subscribe to the mainstream narrative of Muslims. IT’S A BLATANT LIE!!!

By: zofia

zofia — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:03 +0000

you can rest assured that had a neo-nazi skin head had killed a pregnant jewish lady in court in similar circumstances the response from media, international outrage and reactions from leaders would have been completely different…

By: c

Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:20:29 +0000

also, the real anger (in addition to anger at this bigoted psychopath mr. axel) should be directed at the german courts (NOT the german people) for failing to provide adequate security. if one good thing can come from this tragedy i hope it will be the installation of security checks at ALL german courts and the presence of armed officers in EVERY courtroom, even those that hear smaller claims like marwa’s.

By: c

Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:17:13 +0000

first of all, i don’t know about other western outlets but the BBC and the wire agencies all had very good coverage of this tragedy (that’s how i learned about it), so i think many of you are jumping to unfair conclusions.

yes, unfortunately it’s probably true that the coverage would’ve been greater if he had been the one who was muslim… but on the other hand, if they’d both been white it would not have been reported internationally at all (and none of us would’ve ever heard about it).

By: muammarhafiz

muammarhafiz — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:18:34 +0000

BTW..i have christian/budhis/hindu/muslim friends….
we respect eachother.we live happily peacefully..our parents talk and had dinner together sometime.
this shows that ANY RELIGION DONT TEACH THEIR FOLLOWERS to HAVE HATRED.!

dont get brainwashed by any partys…
I DONT THINK ANY PARENTS TEACH THEIR KIDS TO KILL OTHERS…be it muslim or whatever..
those so called JIHAD IS VERY CLOSE TO HELL..THEY RESPONSIBLE TO THOSE WHO DIED ON 9/11 and IN IRAG/AFGHANISTAN…THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM!THEY ARE THE TERRORIST THE KILLERS..

p/s somone is paying for you to get brainwashed.hahahaha

By: muammarhafiz

muammarhafiz — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:06:20 +0000

the “police officers” should resign..

imagine..a police saw a robbery and he had Bystander_effect .. .. .. .. lols..never happen..he just stood there?or he shoot the victim?…in this case..the “police officer” get Bystander_effect and shoot the victim.ha ha ha

I HOPE GERMANS GOVERMENT WILL PROVIDE GOOD TRAINING FOR THEIR POLICE!and include ways to avoid Bystander_effect..hahahahahaha

it doesnt matter christian/muslim/white/black/green/german/russian/alien or whatever…..in this case…..the POLICE is so motherfarking stupid and he should not be a POLICE!go ask any police if he had this “Bystander_effect”…if he does…HE IS A VERY STUPID OR UNPROFESSIONAL POLICEMAN!!!

By: Muddasir

Muddasir — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:56:39 +0000

Now GERMAN TERRORIST/KILLER/MURDERER is called “civilized, Christian Russian-German”.

By: Muddasir

Muddasir — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:50:49 +0000

We can reacall the german slaughterism. I think we can compare germans with old apes who dont know what to do when to do and how to do. Apes just fight for nothing and gets nothing.